Vivek Ramaswamy was skipped over at last night’s debate on the question of whether Mike Pence did his duty on January 6th.

So John McCormack from the National Review caught up with him after the debate to find out what he thought.

Here’s what McCormack said:

When I briefly caught up with Ramaswamy in the spin room, I asked the candidate a question posed to several of his rivals during the debate—whether Mike Pence did the right thing on January 6, 2021, when he rebuffed Trump’s order to delay or reject the counting of Electoral College votes. Ramaswamy told me he “had a detailed answer to that question” but was trying to be “respectful of [debate] rules” when he was skipped over. “I look forward to taking that a future debate because we’re on the run right now, but tell Bret [Baier] to ask me that in the September debate.”

When I asked Ramaswamy a second time whether Pence did the right thing on January 6, he said he “would have done it very differently” and proceeded to offer a meandering answer that did not directly address how he would have handled the counting of electoral votes.

Rather, Ramaswamy suggested he would have somehow forged a national compromise about voting rules. Here’s his full, convoluted response after being asked a second time if Pence did the right thing on January 6:

I think I would have done it very differently. I would have done very differently. So I think that there was a historic opportunity that was missed to settle a score in this country to say that we’re actually going to have a national compromise on this—single-day voting on Election Day as a federal holiday, which I think Congress should have acted in that window between November and January to say: paper ballots, government-issued ID. And if that’s the case, then we’re not going to complain about stolen elections. And if I were there, I would have declared on January 7th, saying now I’m going to win in a free and fair election. Unlike what we saw with big tech and others stealing the election last time around, fix the process. This time around, we get it right, and it was a missed opportunity to deliver national unity. That’s what I would have done, but that’s what I’m gonna be able to do as president is unite this country.

Unlike Ramaswamy, every candidate who was asked about Pence’s actions on January 6 supported the former vice president.

Talk about convoluted. And completely unrealistic. It sounds like Vivek is living in a fairy tale land where Mike Pence could have done whatever he wanted. That’s just not the reality at all.

But forget about that response for a second. Here’s what Vivek wrote in his book about Mike Pence and January 6th. And it is a VERY different answer:

The more I learn about this dude, the more he feels like a con artist.