On episode 50 of The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast, I was rudely prevented from staging my radio play by the Ghost of Luther Abel. After that, I talked to Rafael A. Mangual about crime. Among the questions we discussed are why Rafael believes that the U.S. has a “decarceration” and “depolicing” problem; whether too many Americans are in jail; whether the justice system is “racialized”; what we should do about police brutality; whether voters will punish politicians who make them less safe; and what law-and-order policymakers got wrong in the 1990s.

Listen, or I’ll let you know what happened to Dr. Prandig von Halfenstaff.