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National Review
National Review
23 Mar 2025
Rich Lowry


NextImg:The Corner: Joe Biden’s De Facto Open Border Went Too Far Even for Bernie Sanders

There was a telling exchange on This Week this morning when Jon Karl was interviewing Bernie Sanders:

KARL: Is there anything that you think Trump has done right?

SANDERS: Yeah. I mean, I think cracking down on fentanyl, making sure our borders are stronger. Look, nobody thinks illegal immigration is appropriate, and I happen to think we need comprehensive immigration reform, but I don’t think it’s appropriate for people to be coming across the border illegally. So, we’ve got to work now on comprehensive immigration reform. The idea that Trump has, I don’t know what his latest numbers are.

He wants to deport 20 million people who are in this country who are undocumented. Well, you do that, you destroy the entire country. Because, I got news for you, Trump’s billionaire friends are not going to pick the crops in California that feed us. They’re not going to work in meat packing houses. That’s what undocumented people are doing.

So, we need a variety of programs, guest worker programs, but mostly comprehensive immigration reform.

KARL: But you know illegal immigration, it exploded under Biden. And it had been high for times under Trump as well. But it exploded under Biden. And nothing was really done until his last year in office when he was—

SANDERS: Yes, should have done much better. No argument.

Since Sanders has a background of being somewhat reasonable on immigration compared with most leftists, maybe this isn’t as remarkable it seems, but it does show how Biden’s record on immigration is literally indefensible.