Ben and Guy discuss the latest on the deployment of North Korean troops to the frontlines of the Russia-Ukraine war, Beijing’s alleged spying inside America, and what role Elon Musk might play in a Trump administration.

Then, Andrew Payne, a lecturer in foreign policy and security at City St George’s, University of London, joins the show to discuss a new wave of potential U.S. “forever wars.”

And he explains why China wasn’t a bigger issue in the 2024 presidential race.

Plus, the “Threat of the Week.”

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