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NextImg:McCarthy slams Nancy Mace and 'crazy eight' Republicans who ousted him

Former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) targeted multiple members of Congress who voted to oust him from his position last month, casting doubt on their reelection chances and viability in the chamber.

McCarthy told CNN’s chief congressional correspondent, Manu Raju, on Thursday that the "crazy eight" have wounded the conference and that members like Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC) don't deserve to return to Congress.

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“I mean, if you've watched her, just her philosophy and the flip-flopping,” McCarthy said. “I don't believe she wins reelection. I don't think she'll probably have earned the right to get reelected.”

Mace, once an ally to the California Republican, said she voted in favor of his firing because McCarthy failed to bring up legislation that he previously promised he would.

Mace told CNN that she stands by her vote to oust McCarthy, and criticized the former speaker for “lying all the time to her.”

McCarthy said his belief that Mace didn't deserve to be reelected was not a result of her decision to turn on him and join ranks with Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) and the seven others to push him out of leadership.


McCarthy said the House would benefit "tremendously" if Gaetz were no longer a member of the House, but he said he wasn't going to call for the Florida congressman to be removed, saying that's not his decision to make.

“That's up to the conference," McCarthy said. "I don't believe the conference would ever heal if there's no consequences for the action.”

Gaetz led the motion to vacate McCarthy, which resulted in his removal from the speakership on Oct. 3 in a final vote of 216 to 210, with seven members not voting. In a three-week battle for the speakership, the Republican-led House elected Rep. Mike Johnson (R-LA) two weeks ago. Gaetz was joined by Mace, Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN), and five other Republicans.

McCarthy said both Gaetz and Mace care more about press than they do about policy, attacking their press appearances as the House grew restless during the speaker race after repeated failed efforts to elect a new leader.

“It seemed out of nature,” McCarthy said. “They seem to have changed during the time. They care a lot about press, not about policy. They seem to just want the press, the personality.”

In response to McCarthy’s latest jabs, Gaetz fired back on his podcast, Firebrand, to say he “hadn't thought about him in a while but, seems I'm on his mind.”

“I think if you go and line up the number of TV interviews I've had with the number that McCarthy's had, he was sort of the TV speaker in the absence of substance,” Gaetz said.


“Mister, former speaker, thoughts and prayers as you're going through all of your stages of grief,” Gaetz said. “I know that you mocked and made fun of Tim Burchett for praying about his decision to vote to remove you, but you're still in our prayers. And maybe if you didn't mock prayer and engaged in some, you would have better peace and comfort."

Prior to making his decision, Burchett posted a video saying he was praying over his vote on whether to oust McCarthy as House speaker. Burchett claimed McCarthy mocked him over his public struggle in deciding whether to vote against him.

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Gaetz said the move to elect Johnson was favorable across party lines, although Johnson is widely viewed as far more conservative than McCarthy.

“The decision to fire McCarthy and replace him with Mike Johnson has been popular, popular with Democrats, popular with Republicans, popular with independents,” Gaetz said. “It may be one of the most popular things House Republicans have done.”