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The Bill Gates- and Rockefeller-backed United Nations “50 in 5” plan aims to digitize identity, currency, and everything else on the road to controlling and modifying the behavior of humanity, warned The Sociable Editor Tim Hinchliffe in this interview on Conversations That Matter with The New American magazine’s Alex Newman. Hinchliffe, among the first critics of the scheme to sound the alarm, pointed to India as the example, and a major warning for humanity. The government response to Covid helped justify the emergence of this so-called “Digital Public Infrastructure” (DPI) around the world, with vaccine passports serving as a key driver. Hinchliffe also shares his thoughts on how to resist the schemes.