00:00:00:00 - 00:00:12:02 Speaker 1 And you know, another thing about this is, okay, if the vaccines are safe and effective, like they say that there they're safe. There's totally safe. Yeah. Well, let's find out what's happening because something's happening here, right? 00:00:12:04 - 00:00:18:16 Speaker 2 And and even Richard Hirschman says he says, well, if it's not that, what is a cheerio to the chat. What what what changed. Right. 00:00:18:18 - 00:00:25:04 Speaker 1 Right. What is it? Because we need to find out what the what the source of the problem is to to prevent the problem in the future. 00:00:25:06 - 00:00:35:06 Speaker 2 Yes, exactly. Exactly. 00:00:35:08 - 00:00:58:03 Speaker 1 Welcome, everyone. Rebecca Terrell with the New American Magazine and with me today in the spotlight is Thomas Havilland, who has single handedly taken it upon himself to investigate all these strange, white, fibrous structures that have been occurring since roughly the year 2021, because our government won't do it, and nobody else seems to be taking any notice of it. 00:00:58:04 - 00:01:01:12 Speaker 1 So, Tom, thank you so much for being here with us today. 00:01:01:14 - 00:01:34:07 Speaker 2 Thanks, Rebecca. And you know, you're absolutely right. The last three years, I've actually turned in the results of my surveys to the FDA, CDC, and NIH. Crickets. The. Rebecca, I haven't heard anything from them in three years. And you don't seem to have the least bit of interest in wanting to take a look at this very unusual thing that's having this strange side effect of what we think may be the other Covid 19 vaccines, which, you know, correlations, not necessarily necessarily causation or the timing is awfully suspicious between the appearance of these unusual white fibers, clots. 00:01:34:07 - 00:01:58:05 Speaker 2 And I got a couple of samples to show the audience. Here's one that, these were provided by a bomber, Richard Hirschman. These are what they typically look like. And, they can be found in veins and arteries. And that's one of the interesting things is the embalmers are not only seeing them on the venous side, but also on the arterial side, which before Covid came around on you very rarely would ever find clots on the arterial side. 00:01:58:07 - 00:02:24:15 Speaker 2 Here's a little more spectacular one, Rebecca, look at that. This is about a 5.5in long clot. Yeah, and about an almost a half an inch wide. This thing came out of the, abdominal aorta. It's a very large blood vessel that runs down the trunk into your abdomen. So that's what we're dealing with. And obviously, these things can be causing strokes and heart attacks, right? 00:02:24:15 - 00:02:29:20 Speaker 2 When they completely block a vein or an artery, you can get a stroke or heart attack. So we talked I. 00:02:29:21 - 00:02:50:06 Speaker 1 Really I should have said at the beginning I should have said welcome back because you and I have spoken before and, Veronica, Carolyn, co has also interviewed you and you have written for the New American Magazine as well. We published one of your articles about this, and it was it was interesting. I found your story so interesting because you kind of stumbled into this a little bit. 00:02:50:06 - 00:03:12:15 Speaker 1 You were, you saw them. That movie died suddenly and you're like, oh, they're kind of they look kooky. And. But then something tripped your wire, especially because of what had happened to you at work. So run through that real quickly again to refresh everyone's memories. And then we're going to talk about, because you did start this surveying process long ago, and now further results have come in. 00:03:12:16 - 00:03:14:13 Speaker 1 So there you go. 00:03:14:15 - 00:03:31:05 Speaker 2 You're right. Oh, what's that movie died suddenly. The night it premiered. It was, the week of Thanksgiving of November of 2022. And, you know, I wasn't sure that 6 or 7 embalmers in that movie, people can still find a rumble. By the way, it's about an hour long documentary. Not half the movie is devoted to the 6 or 7 revolvers. 00:03:31:06 - 00:03:52:22 Speaker 2 They said they were finding these unusual white fibrous cloths that they had never seen before in corpses in their veins and arteries of their corpses. So I called the day after I watched the film. I called the Ohio Embalmers Association, I located Cincinnati, I live in Dayton, Ohio, and I talked to their now president, a mr. Woody Wilson, who runs his own funeral home up in Marysville, Ohio, about an hour north of where I live. 00:03:53:00 - 00:04:14:03 Speaker 2 And what he does his own embalming, a lot of funeral directors do their own embalming. And what he said to me, Rebecca, Tom, I'm seeing the white fibers cloths, too. So I said, wow. Now I have an official officer, a well-respected man, right? A the now president of the Ohio Embalmers Association, corroborating these 6 or 7 bowlers in this died suddenly movie. 00:04:14:08 - 00:04:39:01 Speaker 2 So you what you see in the closet. I've also since then found another president. Kevin Squire, who's a president of the Manitoba, Canada Funeral Service Association for the entire province of, you know, Manitoba, including like Winnipeg, which is where his funeral home is saying that he seen the wife I was close to. So I have well respected men in the community, corroborating the 6 or 7 bowlers that died suddenly movie. 00:04:39:03 - 00:05:02:06 Speaker 2 So then I decided immediately I needed to do a nationwide survey, which I then later on turned it into a worldwide survey by including Canada, the UK and Australia and New Zealand to see just how prevalent this phenomenon was. Because I knew the CDC, the FDA was looking at it. So I worked with a nice friend from northeastern Ohio, on this Laura Kastner. 00:05:02:08 - 00:05:23:22 Speaker 2 And Laura, is just happens to be an expert on SurveyMonkey, which is the tool we used to send the survey out. So we used a two pronged approach. We sent the survey out to, 50 national, regional and state funeral director associations around the world, all with hundreds of members under them, asking them to forward the survey to their active embalmer so they could take the survey. 00:05:24:00 - 00:05:46:03 Speaker 2 We then use also a bottom up approach. We looked up over the over 1700 email addresses for 1700 funeral homes around the world, and sent the an email directly to them with a link to the SurveyMonkey survey, hoping to get, you know, maximize the number of responses we got. So in my latest survey, by the way, we did we've had more than we had in the previous two surveys. 00:05:46:08 - 00:05:52:21 Speaker 1 You did. Yeah. Let's talk about let's talk about the comparisons there, because it seems like the problem isn't going away. 00:05:52:23 - 00:06:17:10 Speaker 2 No it's not. And in our latest survey we got 301 responses. One of the surprising things was my thoughts participant though from the previous year. At the end of 2023, that was the Pennsylvania Funeral Directors Association. They, I got 125 responses in just two days on the phone from the state of Pennsylvania because they sent out the survey like I asked them there. 00:06:17:11 - 00:06:37:19 Speaker 2 Yeah. This year, however, at the end of 2024, they refused to participate in the survey in in spite of the fact that their own president has seen unusual clotting in his corpses. Let me read to an email that I got from him. Okay. This is, dated, the 20th of November. This is. Hey, Tom. I'll see what I can do. 00:06:38:00 - 00:07:00:07 Speaker 2 And he's talking about trying to convince his board of directors to forward the survey out again this year. So they take the survey says I was one of the embalmers who responded to the survey last year regarding the cloth situation. So I do recognize this to be a current situation. I see, and he mentions a colleague's name on here on this email, and he and I do quite a bit of chatting together about it, and I do help their firm when he's away. 00:07:00:07 - 00:07:20:22 Speaker 2 So I do see the same things that he's experienced. More concerning for me is the poor distribution I've been experiencing to the extremities, closet side. Nearly every person that I am born is not getting good distribution to one or both of the hands below the elbow, something I have not seen in the past, so it's probably happened. 00:07:20:22 - 00:07:22:13 Speaker 1 He's talking about blood flow. 00:07:22:15 - 00:07:44:08 Speaker 2 He's talking about getting the formaldehyde in, getting the blood out and getting it, getting formaldehyde in. Because remember, they're trying to repair a body for for a viewing. So it's most important that they get, fluid into the head area. And then a lot of times into the hands, right, because they're in a funeral in an open casket, a lot of times you'll see the person's hands breathing the forward across the chest or down the side. 00:07:44:10 - 00:07:57:22 Speaker 2 So and they want to be able to get the formaldehyde all the way to the hands because they want it. First of all, they can become discolored if they don't get the formaldehyde there. Also, the body can start to pick up an odor or two if you don't get from out formaldehyde. 00:07:57:23 - 00:07:59:05 Speaker 1 Okay. 00:07:59:07 - 00:08:25:22 Speaker 2 So what's probably happening in Chris's situation is that, the, white fibers cloths may be in the upper arm and they're blocking that, that fluid getting down in below the elbow into the hands area. Right. So he's a so in spite of the fact that he himself, the president of the, Pennsylvania Funeral Veterans Association, is seeing unusual clotting in his own corpses, his organization decided not to do the survey this year. 00:08:26:01 - 00:08:54:18 Speaker 2 Now, the good news is, is that slack was more than picked up by other state funeral directors associations who did for the survey. I know six in particular that did, Alabama, Florida, Louisiana, Tennessee, Texas and Utah. In fact, the Tennessee funeral Directors Association, headed by president Taylor Moore, actually invited me to come this summer on the 8th of June to speak to their, at their annual conference. 00:08:54:18 - 00:09:14:05 Speaker 2 So and they're actually I'm going to present the, information on the surveys, and then they're going to use that as continuing education points for their embalmers. And so so me yeah, it gives me confidence, Rebecca, that the the dam is starting to break. Some of the funeral associations are starting to recognize hey, this problem is not going away. 00:09:14:08 - 00:09:16:12 Speaker 2 We need to start talking about it. 00:09:16:14 - 00:09:44:12 Speaker 1 Right. Exactly. And it gives you credence to. Because I know a lot of people I know you're getting. Oh, conspiracy theorist conspiracy theories, but we know this. This isn't. I was reviewing our previous, visit when, our interview back in May of 2024, after your first, round of of responses from the survey. And, you know, that was right when AstraZeneca had just announced that it was pulling its product from the market because of clotting issues. 00:09:44:12 - 00:10:05:09 Speaker 1 So this was not this isn't conspiracy theorist crazed people. And, you know, tinfoil hat. It was the company itself. And Johnson and Johnson had just gotten in trouble for that to where they had had their product pulled from the market by authorities, I believe. So at one was a voluntary, but they were both because of clotting issues. So they didn't like you. 00:10:05:10 - 00:10:15:11 Speaker 1 They didn't specifically say white fibrous structures or anything like that because these aren't. And the reason I like to say structures rather than clots because these aren't normal clots. 00:10:15:11 - 00:10:40:11 Speaker 2 No, they're not they they're not blood coagulating obviously, because they're white in color. You know, normal blood is reading color, right? Right. It traditionally involves a bit, are familiar with grape jelly clots. They look just like dark grape jelly. Dissolve easily in your hands. We also have seen something in the past called chicken fat clots, which are yellowish in color, very small, like tear very easily much different than these large white fibrous clots that are tough and rubbery. 00:10:40:13 - 00:10:51:06 Speaker 2 Yeah. Embalmers describe them as what looks like calamari and it almost feels like a rubber band. It stretches right. And then it's almost elastic, like it can go right back into shape again after being stretched. 00:10:51:08 - 00:10:55:04 Speaker 1 And it doesn't easily dissolve in water like the other kinds of clots. Do you. 00:10:55:08 - 00:11:15:23 Speaker 2 No, no. Yeah. These are these are tough. In fact, I'm in touch with a endovascular specialist and cardiologist from, Jacksonville, Florida. I won't name his name because he wants to remain anonymous. Sure. And he has admitted to me that he's been removing these same white, fibrous clots out of living people for the last four years. And frankly, that did not surprise me. 00:11:16:00 - 00:11:29:11 Speaker 2 The embalmers, you know, they were picking up bodies or only an hour or two old finding that rid of the clots. And they said there's no way these clots could have formed. And just the hour or two since the person passed. So we know these things are in the living in there causing strokes and heart attacks. 00:11:29:13 - 00:11:49:05 Speaker 1 Right? Oh so frightening. Well, you want to run through some of your survey results right now. And then also we so this is the embalmers. But you have also we have another little surprise for everybody. So stick around after the embalmers because has also been reaching out to people who have been having clotting issues themselves and admit to having gotten the vaccine. 00:11:49:05 - 00:11:57:23 Speaker 1 So now I want you to talk about Laura, too, because we have to give a little, little shout out to Laura as well. And her, her Substack. 00:11:58:01 - 00:12:20:06 Speaker 2 Yes. My wonderful assistant, Miss Laura Kasper, has a Substack that we affectionately call Clot Caster fee to play a word catastrophe. And that can be found Laura la. You are a cancer case. Any are not substack.com, and you can find the results of all of our surveys that we've done. Okay. And some other. 00:12:20:06 - 00:12:27:11 Speaker 1 That's great. 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And we provide a photo of the class to make sure that the embalmers distinguish between, these white fibrous clots in the chicken fat clots. 00:13:25:04 - 00:13:32:01 Speaker 2 Sure. So and as you can see we had 301, embalmers respond to this year's survey. Look at that, Rebecca. 00:13:32:03 - 00:13:33:03 Speaker 1 That's astonishing. 00:13:33:05 - 00:14:00:03 Speaker 2 150 of the bowlers, 83% said they're seeing the clots in 2024. Now, it could be because the actual percentage of embalmers out of the class have gone up. Richard Hirshman, I believe maybe it's something else going on here. Maybe some of the embalmers were still afraid to admit that they were seeing the clots in past years. But now that we're in the full year for this, maybe there's less of a stigma now for them to come forward and say, yeah, I'm seeing these too. 00:14:00:05 - 00:14:07:10 Speaker 2 So maybe that's why it went up 73% last year to 83% of the Americans seeing the phenomenon this year. 00:14:07:12 - 00:14:24:07 Speaker 1 That's true. And we don't know. But that's the point. That's the point of all this. You are you were flying solo. You were doing this on your own. We need we need official investigation into this. And in the meantime, they need to shut off. Giving, jabbing anybody? 00:14:24:09 - 00:14:48:01 Speaker 2 Yes, yes. And of course, the next natural question. Okay. You're seeing the clots. Well, what percentage of your corpses in year 2024 are you involved. Have had the large whitish fibers structures or clots. And as you can see in red there we did a weighted average. If you include all the bars there in average them together, including the bar were 43 and Bulmer said they saw none. 00:14:48:03 - 00:15:10:02 Speaker 2 You still get a weighted average of the clots appearing in 27.5% of corpses in the year 2024. That was kind of shocking to me, Rebecca, because last year, in the 2023 survey, it was about a 20% average. So I said, oh, good, there's in the first year I did a survey, it was 30%, and it went down in 2023 to 20%. 00:15:10:04 - 00:15:32:12 Speaker 2 So I was hoping it would go down to about 10% this year in 2020. Just last year in 2024, as you can see, is 27.5%. So that's not the right direction. And it's telling me that, we still have a serious problem. And there may be, you know, a situation where it takes a couple of years for these white fibers class to grow to the point where they completely occlude or block a vein or artery. 00:15:32:16 - 00:15:54:22 Speaker 2 And that's where you get your stroke or heart attack. Again, this is a phenomenon. These embalmers have 20 or 30 years of experience. And we asked that in our last year's survey, and that was the average number of years of experience was 15 years of experience. And, with many of them with 20 or 30 years of experience, and they've never seen this phenomenon before, the years of Covid or the vaccines. 00:15:55:00 - 00:16:13:14 Speaker 2 Well, in my first survey, a few of the embalmer said they did see it in the year of Covid, which is interesting. Right? And we know there's a spike protein on the surface of the virus itself. And we believe in a spike protein if it in the bloodstream, could be doing damage to our endothelial lining of our inner walls, of our blood vessels, our veins and arteries. 00:16:13:19 - 00:16:34:01 Speaker 2 And that's what's triggering this horrific clotting response. But we also know that the the vaccines, produce a lot more of the spike protein that gets into your bloodstream. You know, that that that shot was supposed to stay in your deltoid muscle, in your upper arm, produced just enough the spike protein to listen to me response for just a couple of days to a week. 00:16:34:03 - 00:16:54:10 Speaker 2 And then it was supposed to be gone. The mRNA was supposed to leave your body. It's got you ready for Covid. Now. That's not what happened at all. Those lipid nanoparticles carry that mRNA all over your body, and they set up shop all of your body and turn your whole body into a spike protein factory. There's been papers that have shown that, that's can be done for months or even maybe years. 00:16:54:10 - 00:17:14:10 Speaker 2 In fact, Doctor Peter McCullough believes there may not be any off switch to the production of the spike protein by those that have taken the vaccine. So this could be a serious issue if your body's continuously producing spike, and that spike protein is then inflaming, irritating and the lining causing this tremendous, clotting response. 00:17:14:12 - 00:17:15:04 Speaker 1 Right. 00:17:15:06 - 00:17:37:16 Speaker 2 So, you know, you see, 98, in Bolivar said they saw the white fibrous clots between 1 to 20% of their corpses, another 74 sore site between 21 to 40% of the corpses, 55 and over, saw the clotting between 41 to 60% of their courses. And you see a 23 sort between 61 to 80% of their course. And so this is not a rare phenomenon. 00:17:37:16 - 00:17:39:19 Speaker 2 These things are prevalent. Rebecca. 00:17:39:21 - 00:17:42:02 Speaker 1 Absolutely. Wow. 00:17:42:06 - 00:18:01:11 Speaker 2 It's so shocking that they've been able to keep a lid on this for so long with these things being so prevalent. But, you know, unless embalmers and funeral directors, as we'll see later on, vascular surgeons and endovascular specialists and cardiologists tell us what's happening, we just don't know, because they're the only ones that see what's happening inside your veins and arteries. 00:18:01:13 - 00:18:20:15 Speaker 2 All right. So quick question for since we knew we were probably going to get a little bit different mix of people like, taking the survey this year. Like I said, I had a whole bunch of embalmers from the state of Pennsylvania take the survey in 2023, but almost none in 2024. But like I said, the slack was picked up by some other states. 00:18:20:17 - 00:18:43:05 Speaker 2 Sure. Oh we asked. We flat out asked the embalmers. Hey, compare the amount of clots you saw in 2024 to what you saw in 2023 patients. They're the longest bars of 155 embalmers. So they saw the class at about the same percentage of corpses in both years. 59 of all were said they saw less clots in 20, 24, 47 and over. 00:18:43:05 - 00:19:04:09 Speaker 2 So they saw more clots in 2024. So it all washes out to be about an average. But it still disturbs me because like I said, most people took their last jabs way back in 2021. And you know, most people passed on the boosters. So it's it's alarming to me that they're still finding, significant percentage of corpses with clots here at the end of 2024. 00:19:04:11 - 00:19:05:14 Speaker 1 Not good. 00:19:05:16 - 00:19:34:07 Speaker 2 Now, and we then started we started to sprinkle in a few questions this year. Laura, an idea concerning, the psychology of the thing and the reluctance to to want to talk about this topic by the embalmers and the funeral director associations. So in question five, we asked him, hey, do other embalmers that you talked to say that they're seeing the large whitish fiber fibers, clots, as you see, 185 the embalmers out of the 301, a significant number said yes. 00:19:34:07 - 00:19:55:05 Speaker 2 When they talked about the other involvement. They do say they're seeing the clot. So that tells me, you know, and we know that Richard Hirschmann, for example, and John Looney from the UK, just a very few have come forward publicly to talk about this. So this tells me the embalmers are talking to each other privately, Rebecca, for they're not coming out publicly to talk about this. 00:19:55:07 - 00:19:56:05 Speaker 1 Right. 00:19:56:07 - 00:20:15:09 Speaker 2 Only 50 of the involved said, when they ask you the ball was they say no. But then look at that bar at the bottom 66. The involved said, we don't talk about this. Well why not, you know, aren't you curious, you know. Right. Did your funeral home, director give you instructions that you're not to talk about this at the fear of losing your job? 00:20:15:09 - 00:20:18:18 Speaker 2 What's going on there? Right. I thought that was very interesting. 00:20:18:23 - 00:20:35:11 Speaker 1 Very interesting. Good question. That's a very good question. Very revealing. Because you and I were talking before we we started the interview here and a lot of, a lot of what you have found that's interesting are things that are not said rather than things that are actually said. 00:20:35:13 - 00:20:35:23 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00:20:35:23 - 00:20:41:07 Speaker 1 And who's not talking. And you know, right. He's not saying certain things right. 00:20:41:09 - 00:20:45:02 Speaker 2 Yeah. Like I you know me, Rebecca, I keep all the receipts. 00:20:45:03 - 00:20:47:07 Speaker 1 You do. 00:20:47:09 - 00:21:08:13 Speaker 2 Is we I have to get about micro clotting this year. We asked that question, last year. Micro clotting is another phenomenon. The involved are seen. They don't describe it as that. They they describe it as what looks like coffee grounds or dirty blood in the blood coming off the corpse. It has or trying to put the formaldehyde in this what looks like coffee grounds in the blood coming off the corpse. 00:21:08:15 - 00:21:31:16 Speaker 2 This could be an indication of a phenomenon called micro clotting that can be just as dangerous as the large white fibers. Clots. You know, the the large white fibrous clots we think were causing strokes and heart attacks. The micro clotting occurs at the capillary level. Your very small blood vessels that can block the exchange of oxygen at the lungs, and then the carrying of that oxygen to all your major organs in your body, including your brain, your eyes. 00:21:31:18 - 00:21:40:11 Speaker 2 That's why we I think we see some people getting things like brain fog or having vision problems. That could be an indication they have micro clotting going on in their vascular system. 00:21:40:11 - 00:21:41:14 Speaker 1 Okay. 00:21:41:16 - 00:22:06:05 Speaker 2 So we asked about that. Then look at that. 78% of the involves 233 of the 301. So they're still seeing that phenomenon in the year 2024, almost identical to the percentage that said they saw it in the year 2023. Next natural question of course, is, okay, what percentage of your courses in year 2020 for the moment of had this micro clotting or coffee grounds dirty blood. 00:22:06:07 - 00:22:29:17 Speaker 2 If you average all the bars together including the 52 that said they saw none, you got a weighted average of 22% in the year 2024, which is just slightly down from the 25% of is it in year 2023. And so this is a phenomenon and bowlers had seen prior to the years of Covid in the vaccines. But in way less number of courses, less than 5% of their courses typical typically in corpus. 00:22:29:17 - 00:22:54:11 Speaker 2 Is it people that have been chemotherapy patients had heavy chemotherapy. So this is at least a, you know, quadrupling of this particular side effect. So you see there on the left, 118 of the involved said they saw the micro clotting between 1 and 20% of their courses, 79 and over said they saw the dirty blood coffee rounds between 21 to 40% of their courses. 00:22:54:13 - 00:23:18:05 Speaker 2 Another 27. And Bowman said they saw between 41 and 60% of the corpses. And it goes on from there. Right. So now you have a double whammy here of the white fibers clots in these, micro clot. You also, it's actually a triple whammy because the embalmers in my last year survey said that the, traditional grape jelly clots have also increased by about 33%, and they've become more like great jam now. 00:23:18:07 - 00:23:19:18 Speaker 2 So yeah. 00:23:19:19 - 00:23:20:14 Speaker 1 Oh, wow. 00:23:20:14 - 00:23:24:01 Speaker 2 Yeah. They're thicker. More. Yes. 00:23:24:03 - 00:23:25:15 Speaker 1 Wow. 00:23:25:17 - 00:23:47:14 Speaker 2 So we asked a couple more psychological questions here. Have you ever watched any online videos such as Died Suddenly? YouTube. You know, interviews like you and I are doing right now read articles concerning the large whitish fibrous clot. We'll look at that result. Rebecca. Yep. Only 90, you know, only 96 out of the 301. The ball was only about a third said that. 00:23:47:14 - 00:23:53:15 Speaker 2 Yes. Through despite the fact that we saw earlier, 83% of them say they're seeing the white fibers clots. 00:23:53:21 - 00:23:54:17 Speaker 1 Right. 00:23:54:19 - 00:23:58:21 Speaker 2 So what's going on here or a lack of curiosity? You know. 00:23:58:23 - 00:24:15:14 Speaker 1 You would think that something so esoteric is embalming. I mean, that's that's a very narrow industry. And you would think that they would know, you know, you'd hear from other embalmers or just from associations, your associations in the industry. Hey, did you see that movie? Yeah. Or did I, I. 00:24:15:14 - 00:24:41:13 Speaker 2 Would want to know why and try to find out as much about it as possible for having a boner, because I know they're frustrated because it's actually lengthen the time it takes to do embalming, typically prior to Covid. And the vaccines used to take about an hour and a half to do, but now they're taking about 2.5 hours when they find a body that's Ridley's claws, because they have to go in and use different injection site points for the the fluid, and then also stop along the way to keep removing clots with their forceps. 00:24:41:15 - 00:24:45:07 Speaker 2 So it's been very frustrating for them over the last couple of years. 00:24:45:08 - 00:24:54:15 Speaker 1 And that's that. That's another thing they have to use things like forceps. You know, in a normal blood clot, you would use things like blood thinners, which again, you see here. 00:24:54:21 - 00:25:16:02 Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah. We'll see that coming up in May. Or people's blood clots are available again after this. Okay. Question nine we asked the, embalmers. Hey, are you a member of a professional embalmer? Funeral association. No surprise here. We're back up. Over 80% of the 246 out of the 301 are indeed members of a, association. Sure. 00:25:16:02 - 00:25:38:03 Speaker 2 Yes. And that to kind of set them up for this next question, we have some. Hey, has your professional embalmer, a funeral director, association ever discussed the large whitish fibrous clot structures? Look at that answer. Only 52 out of 301 bowlers. Less than 20% of their funeral director associations around the world are talking about these unusual clots. 00:25:38:05 - 00:25:39:04 Speaker 1 And what a scandal. 00:25:39:04 - 00:26:06:06 Speaker 2 And they have plenty of time to I mean, they've got, either bi annual or annual in-person meetings that they go to usually have monthly or quarterly newsletters. So there's plenty of opportunity for them to talk about this. In fact, I have an insider at the British Institute of Embalmers, and he had, this last October, they had their in-person meeting, and he, in front of the entire group, challenged the, leadership. 00:26:06:06 - 00:26:25:00 Speaker 2 He says, hey, are we going to take that, survey this year by that retired major guy who, who's, you know, doing the surveys about the white fibrous cloth and the board at the front of the room. They said, well, we're going to table that and we're going to take it back. We're discussing as our executive committee, and then we'll get back to you. 00:26:25:02 - 00:26:42:12 Speaker 2 Well, they could have decided right there in front of the whole membership. Right. You know, but they didn't they they went back and like a couple of weeks later they said, no, we're not going to we're not going to take it. So they went off in the dark and, and, and decided that they, they were not going to distribute the survey to their membership to let their involvement take the survey. 00:26:42:14 - 00:26:56:13 Speaker 1 And by the way, I'm glad you brought that up. You are retired US Air Force major, and you were also working as, after retirement, you were a military contractor in your engineering. What's your specialty in engineering? Yeah, I'm. 00:26:56:13 - 00:27:03:23 Speaker 2 A electrical engineer and also a data analyst. So I've been doing data analysis and analysis for 36 years. Rebecca. 00:27:04:01 - 00:27:05:05 Speaker 1 So you're perfect for this? 00:27:05:08 - 00:27:27:15 Speaker 2 I'm a math guy. Yeah, I have a math degree from a degree from Louisiana Tech. And, a master's in computer, resources, information management. Management. I also happened to be a, when I was going to college before I got my math degree. I was actually a pre-med student. I had a full year of organic chemistry, a full year of anatomy, and, you know, dissecting the cat and biology and all that stuff. 00:27:27:19 - 00:27:36:11 Speaker 2 Oh, well, I never realized I was going to use my I know that my pre-med stuff later on in my life, but it actually does come in somewhat handy. 00:27:36:13 - 00:27:41:12 Speaker 1 That's right. It's like you were born for it for such a time as this. So yeah. 00:27:41:14 - 00:28:00:20 Speaker 2 Right. I think that was a yeah. So at the very end of all of our surveys, we allowed, the embalmers to make comments. It's optional. They don't have to if you don't want to move the 301 who responded to the survey, 80 of them decided to, give us some comments. I'm going to read the first couple pages here to you. 00:28:00:22 - 00:28:19:05 Speaker 2 Here's what from Georgia, the majority of cases of decedents I've involved who present the large white fibers cloth. We're in the age range from late 50s to early 70s. Micro clotting and grape jelly type clotting have been observed almost on every case of hospitalized prior to death. 00:28:19:07 - 00:28:19:22 Speaker 1 Interesting. 00:28:20:04 - 00:28:37:09 Speaker 2 Yeah. You know, first of all, it kind of shook me a little bit. He was talking about, the 50s to early 70s. You know, you expected I would have expected to see you late 70s into your 80s. 90s? You know, they're seeing clots in people, you know, younger than that, which is not good. 00:28:37:11 - 00:28:40:05 Speaker 1 This is not the normal demographic for that kind of thing. 00:28:40:05 - 00:28:58:23 Speaker 2 No. And then you go on to mention that he's observed that in almost every case of hospitalized prior death. Well, then you start to think, well, that the clotting probably was the cause of the death, then. Sure. So, right. The next one here from Kentucky says, I've been in the Bulmer since the early 2000s for an embalming service. 00:28:59:00 - 00:29:22:00 Speaker 2 I've never seen anything like this before. The spring of 2021, I have experienced the white fibrous clots and these are furious. I think you meant fibers, clots and have stretched out to 20in long. Wow. It's like. It's like battling a rubber band. My right hand and elbow is suffer from these clots. I've been saying for the last three years, this isn't normal. 00:29:22:02 - 00:29:55:10 Speaker 2 I've recently spoken with a physician that has been, hearing it this in his field. We are in the same agreement that we feel we know where this has come from. I think he's talking about a certain injection. So just shocking. Here's one with an opposite opinion. Okay? This this is this guy from Canada. Since the beginning of the Covid 19 pandemic, which I assume this survey is pertaining to, I have not noticed any clots, fiber structures or contents in the blood outside the ordinary. 00:29:55:12 - 00:30:22:18 Speaker 2 It is also not our responsibility as embalmers to take note of these cases, record or share any information as it is confidential medical information that breaches the privacy clause we have with our client families. Videos and articles such as Died Suddenly are anti-vaccine Covid denying propaganda that is based in no actual fact, other than to spread right wing beliefs and fearmongering in the public. 00:30:22:20 - 00:30:24:11 Speaker 2 What do you think of that? Rebecca? 00:30:24:13 - 00:30:30:05 Speaker 1 Right. Well, we could pick that apart. First of all, you never said Covid. You never mentioned the word Covid. 00:30:30:05 - 00:30:49:13 Speaker 2 I never mentioned Covid or the vaccines in any of my questions in the survey. So this is coming out of his head, not mine. Right. You know, I also take great, issue with the statement that is not as a responsibility. I know what an informer finds, either like a gunshot wound or a stab wound in the corpse. 00:30:49:15 - 00:31:12:19 Speaker 2 He actually has a legal obligation to inform the police of what he's found. Sure. I think similarly, when they're finding these unusual white fibers, cloth embalmers do have an ethical duty to, share that with the authorities. As I mentioned earlier, the British Institute of Embalmers declined to take my survey. This year, again, it was interesting about that. 00:31:12:19 - 00:31:30:21 Speaker 2 Rebecca is on their own website. They have a code of ethics. And key point number four to that code of ethics is that they're supposed to do research when they come across something that affects involving. And I'm telling these white fibers costs are definitely affecting a body like we talked about earlier, either the length of time it takes to do in a ball, for example. 00:31:30:23 - 00:31:41:03 Speaker 2 So I think that the British Institute of Embalmers and all these other organizations that are not responding are actually violating their own mission statements and code of ethics by not doing so. 00:31:41:05 - 00:32:05:15 Speaker 1 Of course. Well, and the other thing that this is actually not true, it's not a breach of privacy with families to talk about cases in general without zeroing in on specifics and, you know, revealing, private patient information. Yeah. I mean, you're not asking. You're not even asking generalities. Like what? What are the what's the sex and what's the it? 00:32:05:20 - 00:32:22:12 Speaker 1 You're asking a very and people might offer a general range like that 50 to 70 year old. But you're not even asking for those particulars. So I yeah that's that was, that was a fallacious statement. That's no breach of privacy. That's no violation of HIPAA, for instance, in the United States. 00:32:22:12 - 00:32:36:13 Speaker 2 Exactly. And, Richard Hirschmann, for example, you know, there was in the Dyson movie, he agrees exactly with what you just said, right? That, you know, we're we're not revealing this clot came out of Mrs. Jones on this date, you know, right. 00:32:36:14 - 00:32:37:07 Speaker 1 Yeah. 00:32:37:08 - 00:32:55:22 Speaker 2 I kind of think that last one here, I'll, I'll go over on this particular survey is I'm. I'm flight from Virginia. I'm finding a lot of the white rubbery cloth and I've been taking pictures of them, but it's become the new normal. I don't use a drain tube anymore because of all the cloth blood clots and the fibrous white ones. 00:32:56:00 - 00:33:14:02 Speaker 2 My angular forceps is my go to instrument to help remove them. So this guy is seen a lot of cloth. It makes me think of the Canada guy we just talked about. Is he saying that all 250 embalmers that said they saw the white fibers clots in the survey this year? He called them a bunch of liars. You know, it's been. 00:33:14:04 - 00:33:34:11 Speaker 1 Right. And you could you know, if it were 1 or 2, then you could say other crazy. It's not 1 or 2. It's a lot of people. And and besides that, to them saying, yes, other embalmers I speak with say that they seen the same thing, but the fact that people are afraid to talk about it, one of your, one of your respondents said something about that. 00:33:34:11 - 00:34:02:00 Speaker 1 Maybe it's in the, in the other survey that we're about to get to. But one of the comments was, a patient had been talking to his doctor about the situation. The doctor simply looked down and said, I can't say anything. He was fearful for his job, for his medical license and, you know, we have that too. So you know that when you when you're on it, when you've touched a nerve like that, unfortunately you're probably over a target and and you're right. 00:34:02:02 - 00:34:13:10 Speaker 1 And you know, another thing about this is, okay, if the vaccines are safe and effective, like they say that they're they're safe. There's totally safe. Yeah. Well, let's find out what's happening because something's happening here. 00:34:13:10 - 00:34:20:11 Speaker 2 Right. And and even Richard Hirschman says, he says, well, if it's not that, what is a cheerio to the what, what what changed. 00:34:20:11 - 00:34:27:12 Speaker 1 Right, right. What is it. Because we need to find out what the what the source of the problem is to, to prevent the problem in the future. Right. 00:34:27:14 - 00:34:54:00 Speaker 2 Exactly, exactly. So having done that, also this last year, earlier in the in the year, in 2024, about March of that year, I have this whistleblower come forward, a doctor who works in a catheterization lab. A cath lab is usually staffed with, endovascular specialist, vascular surgeon, cardiologist, radiologist, nurses. And their job is to take, clots out of living people. 00:34:54:05 - 00:34:59:00 Speaker 2 And before Covid, they were taking out grape jelly clots and chicken fat clots. 00:34:59:00 - 00:34:59:17 Speaker 1 Sure. 00:34:59:18 - 00:35:18:23 Speaker 2 Now they're taking out these things because these things are you can't break them down with clot busting drugs like tissue plasminogen activator, for example. They're so tough and rubbery. Yeah. You have to go in with these flexible catheters that either suck the clot out, they scrape it out, or they, lasso the clot and pull it out. 00:35:19:01 - 00:35:34:10 Speaker 1 So I, you know, there was another, I had made this observation before, that the thing about nobody doing any. You're one of the only people I know on earth who's investigating this, which is why. 00:35:34:12 - 00:35:49:19 Speaker 2 I'm the only person myself and Laura are the only two people that are actually, getting both the timing and the prevalence, right? The how much, you know, this is happening around the world. Nobody else, to my knowledge, is is looking at either the timing or the prevalence of this. 00:35:49:19 - 00:36:11:05 Speaker 1 And, you know, this is a huge breach of contract on the part of the United States government because back in the 80s, when Congress passed that horrific bill that indemnified all of the vaccine manufacturers, they have no liability. It took liability away from any vaccine manufacturer. The if you read the wording of the bill, it actually specifies whether the government has to continue doing testing. 00:36:11:07 - 00:36:17:18 Speaker 1 Well, they're not doing the testing. So right there when you when you breach of contract the contract is no good. Right. 00:36:17:19 - 00:36:40:19 Speaker 2 And they should be observing post rollout of the vaccines. What are the side effects of you know the their system is is is capturing that supply. But to this day the CDC and FDA still claim that they don't they don't see the signal. You know, if you won't go and look and there's you see this horrific amount and we believe the there's, by the way, is underreported by a factor of about 26. 00:36:41:00 - 00:37:12:03 Speaker 2 Yes, exactly. I like to use the 26 factor because the CDC has another system called V safe, which is a downloadable app for people to download on their smartphones. And about 10 million Americans downloaded the safe app to, to talk about their vaccine experience. Of those 10 million that downloaded the V safe app, 800,000 of them, 8% had a severe event that was bad enough for there had to go to the emergency room urgent care, or scheduled a doctor's appointment to resolve it. 00:37:12:05 - 00:37:35:13 Speaker 2 So but those 800,000, they should have also filed a corresponding VA's report on that adverse event that had only 30,000 of the 800,000 did. If you take 800,000 divided by 30,000, you get a factor of 26. So using the CDC own two systems, Vas and V safe, we can determine that virus is underreported by a factor of about 26. 00:37:35:16 - 00:37:40:02 Speaker 1 Right. Well you people don't know about it. People don't know oh that's where I go, right. 00:37:40:08 - 00:37:53:12 Speaker 2 It was so hard from what I understand, for people to get things into theirs. Doctors were reluctant to file their claims. They were in the hospital for time. Hey, don't don't put this information in the system. So it was is not a good situation. 00:37:53:13 - 00:37:54:13 Speaker 1 No. Not good. 00:37:54:13 - 00:38:13:06 Speaker 2 But it's just it. Flabbergasted me that even with it being so underreported, you can still see a tremendous signal. You know, in clots in my heart, itis, you know, strokes, heart attacks. It's just like it's beyond. It just boggles my mind that they can make the claim that, hey, we don't see a signal. 00:38:13:08 - 00:38:25:02 Speaker 1 Right? Yeah. This is far way. Orders of magnitude above what used to be the commonly accepted. Oh, wait. Put a hold on that drug. We've got to. We've got to do some more testing. So, yeah. 00:38:25:04 - 00:38:49:02 Speaker 2 So when I ran into this, endovascular specialist and cardiologist last year from Florida who said that he's been pulling these same white fibers, clots out of living people for the last four years. I got the idea. Well, why don't I run a survey or try to run a survey amongst vascular surgeon and cath lab workers and a vascular specialist to see if I can get them to answer some and especially answer maybe some questions about Covid. 00:38:49:07 - 00:39:21:04 Speaker 2 Unlike The embalmer surveys. Why I'd never mention the vaccines right here. I can mention the vaccines in this survey because unlike the involvements, these doctors do have access to all the Covid vaccination records of their patients. In fact, Doctor Phil McMillan, who runs a YouTube channel called Vision Health, has he's found his own cat lab whistleblower. And this gentleman, he's worked in the Saint cath lab for 20 years, and he says he's pulling anywhere between 3 to 10 of these white fibers, clots out of living people every week in his one cath lab alone. 00:39:21:06 - 00:39:43:00 Speaker 2 And he does have access to the all the Covid vaccination records. I can tell you when they took their shot, how many shots they took, which brand they took. And he says that whenever he finds a white, fibrous clot, Rebecca, 99% of the time that person has been jabbed with anywhere between 1 to 8 jabs, and the more jabs it had, the worse the clotting seems to be. 00:39:43:02 - 00:39:46:04 Speaker 1 So what's the explanation for the 1%? 00:39:46:06 - 00:40:05:18 Speaker 2 I think he's covering his bases just in case somebody comes up that who has not been jabbed has the clot, and we know they might be able to occur via blood transfusion. You could be an onion person that may have had an operation where you got tainted blood from somebody, you know, from the blood supply, who, you know, a donor had been, and right. 00:40:05:20 - 00:40:07:17 Speaker 1 Yeah. We know about that problem. Yeah. 00:40:07:20 - 00:40:33:12 Speaker 2 And then there's also there's also shedding is actually is a real thing as well. That's via exosomes itself. Yeah. Doctor. Peter Corey, doctor Scott Marsland in their practice I've talked about and usually though that doesn't need I don't think is much of as much a concern because anything that spread out via exosomes, still has to fight through your mucosal membrane or to get inside your system. 00:40:33:12 - 00:40:39:15 Speaker 2 Right? Whereas the vaccine is much easier because it's getting injected directly into you, gets picked up by the bloodstream right away. 00:40:39:17 - 00:40:40:08 Speaker 1 Exactly. 00:40:40:12 - 00:41:02:03 Speaker 2 It can produce much larger amounts of the spike protein, which can cause much more damage to your and Ophelia lining and present other problems as well. So. So what I decided to do is I I'll do this, I'll do a cath lab worker survey, and I'll send it out to these, societies for vascular surgery in the US, Canada, UK and Australia, New Zealand. 00:41:02:05 - 00:41:13:11 Speaker 2 Well, I did that. And Rebecca, I got zero responses except for one in response from the society for Vascular Surgery here in the United States. 00:41:14:13 - 00:41:35:12 Speaker 2 You can see their logo, their SVS is their logo, and they declined to participate in the survey. You know, the they're, headquartered in Rosemont, Illinois, and they brag about having over 6300 members, vascular surgeons all across the US. Think about that. They could have taken that survey. And if it was a nothing burger, they could have said, hey, this is a nothing burger. 00:41:35:12 - 00:41:40:09 Speaker 2 This isn't happening. And you know, why not send out the survey, you know, and say. 00:41:40:11 - 00:41:42:02 Speaker 1 This is wrong and. 00:41:42:02 - 00:42:02:08 Speaker 2 Prove me wrong. Right? But they decide, no, we're not going to send out the survey. So I said, wow, I know. Well now can I? I said, well, wait a minute. If I cannot get good information from the doctor in, maybe I can get good information from the patient and so I created a people's blood clot survey that where I asked people and I advertised it on. 00:42:02:08 - 00:42:24:19 Speaker 2 Doctor John Campbell has a YouTube channel with a big following. So we displayed a QR code and his, audience, you know, just took the survey, not all of that time. And then also, Clayton Morris and his wife Natalie on Redacted news also displayed the QR code. Know, within just a couple weeks, Rebecca, I received over 1400 responses. 00:42:25:00 - 00:42:31:00 Speaker 2 So the patients, they're happy to tell you about their clotting experience, right? The doctors are dead silent about it. 00:42:31:00 - 00:42:31:19 Speaker 1 Exactly. 00:42:31:22 - 00:42:36:20 Speaker 2 So do. 00:42:36:22 - 00:43:03:15 Speaker 4 I I'm Alan Keyes. I'm the host of I am TV's, daily talk show about, news and events in America. 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Yeah. 00:43:37:23 - 00:43:38:07 Speaker 1 Okay. 00:43:38:07 - 00:43:42:06 Speaker 2 Well let's show the first slide here that has the QR code on so people can still take it. 00:43:42:12 - 00:43:48:10 Speaker 1 Oh good. Good. Okay. Well and I'll include that link to in the description below the video. 00:43:48:12 - 00:44:08:12 Speaker 2 Yeah. So I asked people I said if you or anyone that you know, has had blood clotting issues since January of 2020 because I wanted to capture the year that we had the virus, but no vaccine yet. Right. That first year, 2020. Sure. Please take the survey at the QR code shown this when I ran. These are the results as of the 1st of October 2024. 00:44:08:16 - 00:44:14:02 Speaker 2 Since then, actually, a couple more 100 responses have come in that I haven't had time to, 00:44:14:04 - 00:44:15:02 Speaker 1 Right. Took a while. 00:44:15:02 - 00:44:31:15 Speaker 2 There's. Yeah, we got 1400 1425 responses in just a couple of weeks. Rebecca. All over Europe, South America, South Africa, Singapore, Thailand, the US, Virgin Islands, Indonesia, Israel. 00:44:31:16 - 00:44:35:09 Speaker 1 Israel. That's significant because of the the Pfizer mandate there. 00:44:35:11 - 00:44:52:20 Speaker 2 Yeah. They all got jacked up at least four times. I think the whole population did know. So question two we asked him, have you or anyone that, you know, had blood clotting issues that started after January 2020? That was actually the purpose of the survey. So theoretically everybody should have answered yes. I'm not sure why the 58 answer. 00:44:52:22 - 00:44:55:17 Speaker 2 They shouldn't have been taking a survey if there is really no right. 00:44:55:19 - 00:44:59:22 Speaker 1 Well, there are some people that just like to take surveys. I think. 00:45:00:00 - 00:45:30:15 Speaker 2 So I asked Mark all years plural. Then apply you or the person that, you know, had the blood clotting issues. This was a very revealing slide. Look at the answer to 2020, Rebecca. The year we had Covid, but no vaccines yet, right? Only 79 people said they had the blood clotting issue that year. Now look at all the subsequent year starting with 2021 going forward, over 500 people, right, are seeing they had blood clotting issues. 00:45:30:17 - 00:45:40:04 Speaker 2 So that's I don't know what's telling you, but that's telling me that this is maybe slightly a Covid virus problem. It's telling me it's primarily a Covid vaccine problem. 00:45:40:06 - 00:45:47:23 Speaker 1 Sure it could. Well, like you said, correlation doesn't, prove causation. Right? But this is certainly enough of a red flag. 00:45:48:01 - 00:45:55:10 Speaker 2 And like I said, the two they have two things in common the right, the virus in the can. The vaccine both produced the spike protein. 00:45:55:12 - 00:45:56:22 Speaker 1 That's right. 00:45:57:00 - 00:46:21:16 Speaker 2 So then we just flat out asked them, did the person with the class take the Covid 19 vaccine? And this slide pretty much speaks for itself. Of the 1425 responses, almost 1300 of them, 1294 said yes. The person with the clots took the Covid 19 vaccine. Well, the 82 said no. The 45 that don't know, you know, those were people that were responding for a friend or somebody else. 00:46:21:16 - 00:46:25:06 Speaker 2 Right? So here, their VAX status. 00:46:25:08 - 00:46:27:01 Speaker 1 Right. 00:46:27:02 - 00:46:45:19 Speaker 2 So then we asked what Mark, what year mark all that applied to the first person with the clots. Take the Covid 19 vaccine. No, no surprise here. Right. The, longest bar was 2021. We did have a bar for 29th December of 2020, remember? That's when the shots first rolled out here in the US. 00:46:45:19 - 00:46:46:16 Speaker 1 They did. 00:46:46:18 - 00:47:13:01 Speaker 2 Yeah, just that last month. But then most people took their first couple of jabs way back in 2021. Then less people took the before ba5 bivalent Omicron booster in 2022. Even fewer took the SBV 1.5 booster in 2023. And you see, very few people took the shots in 2024. So this actually matches the information that the CDC has provided on uptake of the vaccine. 00:47:13:03 - 00:47:17:20 Speaker 2 Excuse me. Confidence in the people answering the survey were responding honestly and correctly. 00:47:20:13 - 00:47:36:01 Speaker 2 We then asked him, how soon did the person develop the blood clotting issue after taking the Covid 19 vaccine? As you can see there, 125 people said less than two weeks, 118. So between two weeks and a month. 00:47:36:03 - 00:47:36:09 Speaker 1 Three. 00:47:36:09 - 00:47:59:06 Speaker 2 320 said between 1 to 6 months, 217. So between six months in a year and 367 said greater than one year. So this, you know, corroborates my theory. It can happen quickly or it may take anywhere, you know, 6 to 18 months, maybe even longer for these white fibers, clots to actually grow to the point before they come, like threatening. 00:47:59:08 - 00:48:16:15 Speaker 2 It also could be an indication that people are, there may be no off switch on people being a spike protein factory after taking the vaccines. Right. That the the the mRNA is continuously producing forever the spike protein in those that have taken the jabs. Unfortunately. 00:48:16:17 - 00:48:24:19 Speaker 1 And like you said, it's not a traditional blood clot. What you did have, one of these sent to a lab and they analyzed it. And what did they come back with? 00:48:24:21 - 00:48:52:03 Speaker 2 Yeah. Mr. Richard Hirschman, he's been sending, samples of these all over the world, Rebecca, to lots of scientists that are looking at them, and they're, the this team that we're working with the most closely has, determined that it's a combination of about 56% of the clot is fibrinogen. And that's interesting. Fibrinogen is the protein that's in our blood, is produced by the liver. 00:48:52:05 - 00:49:17:08 Speaker 2 And, it is involved in the normal clotting process. It's, in a liquid form in our blood plasma. Whenever there's damage done that the material lining or inside walls of our blood vessels, then that fibrinogen and in its liquid form converts into a white solid form called fibrin. And that's the way the normal and an aggregate to platelets forms a clot. 00:49:17:10 - 00:49:39:22 Speaker 2 And then after the wound is healed, then another enzyme called a plasma comes down and breaks down the clot. No problem. Unfortunately, we believe that process is being altered. The, fibrinogen that's in the clot. There's three actual chains that make up the, the fibrin chain. There's a fibrinogen gamma chain and a beta chain and an alpha chain. 00:49:40:18 - 00:50:05:20 Speaker 2 And they're usually in a 1 to 1 one ratio. It's like three small groups intertwining to form one larger, stronger rope. Okay. Well in these class it's not into a one to 1 to 1 ratio. The fibrinogen beta chain is 36% of the clot. So the gamma chain is 16% of the clot and the alpha chains only 4% of the clot. 00:50:05:22 - 00:50:30:12 Speaker 2 So it's way off of the one to 1 to 1 ratio. It's in a nine to 4 to 1 ratio basically, which is really strange. And and what we think is happening, the scientists we're working with is that the, spike protein, either from the virus or the more likely the one, by the vaccine is becoming phosphorylated, in our bloodstream. 00:50:30:12 - 00:50:57:03 Speaker 2 And then it actually has a great affinity for our natural fibrinogen. So instead of fibrinogen, fibrinogen, converting properly into fibrin, it's bonding. It's down into this strange polymer with the, spike protein. And it's also at the moment that the phospholipid nanoparticles that deliver the mRNA to the cell from the vaccine, they have to open up at some point when they get inside the cell to release its payload inside, right. 00:50:57:03 - 00:51:25:18 Speaker 2 The mRNA, when that when that hollow ball, fatty ball phospholipid nanoparticle opens up, it's exposing phosphorus heads on the fossil lipid nanoparticle, which we believe are also bonding with our natural fibrinogen. So now you have this bizarre polymer of the fibrinogen in combination with the spike protein, in combination with the phospholipid nanoparticle forming these strange, bizarre rubbery clots, bizarre polymer. 00:51:25:20 - 00:51:35:03 Speaker 2 So it's it's really unusual, very unusual. We ask the people, the blood clotting issue was in what part of the body. 00:51:36:09 - 00:51:52:08 Speaker 2 And you see their legs was the number one answer 593. Typically they're called deep vein thrombosis. Yes. The next most likely location was the lungs, which is kind of scary because that's where pulmonary embolism is form part. 00:51:52:10 - 00:51:52:17 Speaker 1 Yeah. 00:51:52:22 - 00:52:01:12 Speaker 2 Third was brain, fourth was heart then abdomen. And then we had a kind of a catch all for nose I arms uterus, etc.. 00:52:01:18 - 00:52:02:04 Speaker 1 Okay. 00:52:02:05 - 00:52:28:09 Speaker 2 What's really interesting about this, result, Rebecca, is it matches perfectly the CDC safe database. They have a free text field that can, there be safe database. They didn't want to release that free text field. And, Dell Victory's folks at the high wire. I can the informed Consent action network did a FOIA request, and a judge made the CDC turn this information over. 00:52:28:11 - 00:52:47:17 Speaker 2 From the foyer. Request. And it's been coming out in tranches of, hundreds of thousands of records, you know, to you, to the 10 million that we talked about earlier in Be Safe. And every month, even, putting out an Excel spreadsheet with hundreds of thousands of records in it. And I've been going through those Excel spreadsheets as they come out. 00:52:47:22 - 00:53:18:17 Speaker 2 Rebecca, I've been doing a search on the term blood clot. And then I go and I see where in the free text data field, the person mentioned, the blood clot occurred. And guess what, legs is the number one answer? Lungs is number two. Right is number three. Heart is number four is following perfectly. The 1400 people that responded to this survey have got the batting order exactly the same as what the CDC is on, say, the free text data field shows me confidence that the people responded to the survey. 00:53:18:18 - 00:53:19:19 Speaker 1 Did so. 00:53:19:21 - 00:53:20:19 Speaker 2 Honestly. 00:53:20:21 - 00:53:23:23 Speaker 1 Right? Yeah. Wow. 00:53:24:01 - 00:53:30:11 Speaker 2 So then we asked him, well, how was the blood clotting issue resolved as you see there? 00:53:30:12 - 00:53:31:02 Speaker 1 Oh. 00:53:31:04 - 00:53:55:22 Speaker 2 383 people said it's not resolved. If the person still has a clotting issue. That's not a good sign. No. The good news is, is 98 people said that it went away on its own, right. Another 460 were able to dissolve the clot using clot busting drugs. I suspect those might have been primarily grape jelly clots, because the tissue plasminogen activator TPA seems to do a very good job of breaking news down. 00:53:56:00 - 00:54:16:04 Speaker 2 But then you see 257 people had to have the clot surgically remove or physically remove using these flexible catheters that either suck the clot out, scrape it out, or lasso it out. Right. I'm I'm guessing the probably most of those of not all of those are probably are tough, rubbery, white fibrous variety pieces like you could see. 00:54:16:08 - 00:54:19:10 Speaker 1 Right. If they did, they didn't react to drugs, so they had to go to the surgical. Right. 00:54:19:10 - 00:54:28:05 Speaker 2 Exactly. Yeah. We haven't you see the last one, unfortunately 242 people died before they could get the clot out, which is very sad that. 00:54:28:07 - 00:54:29:20 Speaker 1 That is. 00:54:29:22 - 00:54:48:05 Speaker 2 So then the next question we ask the people is, if the person's clot was physically removed by a doctor, would you be willing to share that doctor's name? Well, out of the 1425 responses we got, only 142 said yes, it's less than 10%. Wow. So it tells me that people don't want to get their doctors in trouble. 00:54:48:05 - 00:54:54:10 Speaker 2 They probably like their doctor. They may have to go back to them again to get more clots out. So they don't want to out him or her. 00:54:54:12 - 00:55:00:07 Speaker 1 Right. So yeah. So everybody's aware. Everybody's aware of the psyop going on. 00:55:00:09 - 00:55:01:10 Speaker 2 I think so. 00:55:01:11 - 00:55:09:15 Speaker 1 Yeah. That's sad. I mean it was true. Was very telling. That was a good you and Laura thought of some very good questions. 00:55:09:15 - 00:55:10:13 Speaker 2 Well. 00:55:10:15 - 00:55:12:10 Speaker 1 On these surveys. 00:55:12:11 - 00:55:30:23 Speaker 2 Like I said, we wanted to, delve into the psychology behind it because we, you know, we've already been we obviously want to gather the gather the data, too, but we also wanted to see what is psychologically going on with this reluctance. And of course, like I said, you know, we like to bring the receipts and figure out why this is happening. 00:55:31:04 - 00:55:48:10 Speaker 2 We think, you know, we kind of figured it out. I mean, it's not rocket science. A lot of these doctors, they took the jobs themselves. They may have cognitive dissonance. They probably recommend it to their friends and family to take the jabs. So the last thing they want to do is say, oops, I made a mistake. I recommend that you guys get a jab. 00:55:48:12 - 00:56:06:02 Speaker 2 Now we know it's causing harm to a lot of people. Exactly. With the fact that we think it's ineffective now. It's not it's not stopping you from catching Covid or transmitting it anyways. You know it's not. And they've also, debunked the other lie that they like to say that, well, if you get Covid, your case will be less severe. 00:56:06:02 - 00:56:11:10 Speaker 2 If you took the vaccine. That's a bunch of bunk two. There's been papers out that disprove that as well. 00:56:11:12 - 00:56:12:13 Speaker 1 Of course. Yeah. 00:56:12:15 - 00:56:31:11 Speaker 2 Yeah. So again, at the end of this survey, we asked the, offered the people to, you know, tell us a little bit more about your particular case. And of the 1400 people that responded to this survey, the people survey over 1100 of them. Rebecca wrote something in the comment section. 00:56:31:16 - 00:56:33:22 Speaker 1 Wow, that's a huge. 00:56:34:00 - 00:56:55:06 Speaker 2 Yeah. Let me read all similar ones to here. My mother had three Covid vaccine, all Pfizer vaccines. She was healthy and had a stroke and coded in the hospital and die within five days. The fuel. Our driver was a good friend of the families and informed us and showed us the white fibrous clots that were throughout her body. 00:56:55:08 - 00:57:00:06 Speaker 2 He told us they were seeing a lot of these types of clots while embalming. 00:57:00:08 - 00:57:02:08 Speaker 1 And that was only five days. 00:57:02:13 - 00:57:04:03 Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah. 00:57:04:05 - 00:57:11:07 Speaker 1 Now I'm assuming five days after the third vaccine. So we actually don't know how long it was after the first. 00:57:11:13 - 00:57:31:17 Speaker 2 Yeah. So again, timing could be an issue here. Here's another one. My mom never had clotting issues before this incident, and only two weeks after receiving the Covid shot, she was taken to the ER for multiple clots that developed in the same arm. She received the Covid shot. Wow. Pretty telling isn't it? 00:57:31:17 - 00:57:40:07 Speaker 1 The proximity right? Yeah I think these are fascinating. I read all of them and I just every single one of them had an element of of shock. 00:57:40:09 - 00:57:59:20 Speaker 2 Here's one from somebody that's inside the medical system a surgical nurse, surgical nurse seeing a huge increase in clots. We are doing more amputations than I've seen in my whole career. I'm definitely seeing the class you were describing. When I say it's probably due to the Covid shot, everyone ignores me and there was silence in the operating room. 00:57:59:22 - 00:58:23:15 Speaker 2 I also hear the surgeon saying I've never seen this before. Also, during heart surgeries, the surgeons are having difficult time suturing as the tissues are just falling apart. Once again, the surgeons are saying, I've never seen anything like this before. A lot of patients are dying. Yeah, it's what she's, saying about the difficult time suturing as the tissues are falling apart. 00:58:23:21 - 00:58:48:20 Speaker 2 That could be an indication of another phenomenon. In in addition to the class, the embalmers and vascular surgeons are seeing what's called vasculitis. The blood vessels are getting so damaged that they're starting to collapse. And a lot of living people are actually having to have stents put in to shore up the walls. Particularly, iliac vein compression seems to be one of the main places where this is happening. 00:58:49:01 - 00:59:10:03 Speaker 2 The iliac artery is down in your pelvis area, and a lot of people are having, Doctor Jordan Vaughan has noticed a lot of people having vein compression, causing poor circulation. So he's had to go in and put stents in that particular area to shore the walls up. So it's all coming together, and it's not a good story. 00:59:10:05 - 00:59:12:21 Speaker 1 Well, that is frightening. 00:59:12:23 - 00:59:38:11 Speaker 2 Here's another one. This may be the most shocking one of all. I was feeling fine. Had pain left side below shoulder blade. Started sweating and feeling weak. Call the ambulance. EKG did not show a heart attack. Rushed to emergency EKG did not show a heart attack. Third different emergency doctor did EKG and ultrasound. They were all perplexed that a cardiologist was called. 00:59:38:13 - 01:00:04:04 Speaker 2 Oh, I went to or I was sent to Heart Institute. Arriving there, I went into cardiac arrest without two minutes. Wow. Reset to compressions and for defibrillator shocks used, they went in through an artery at the wrist. They removed fibrous clot. They did not want to tell me, but a nurse whispered to me, it's the vaccine. We have so many. 01:00:04:06 - 01:00:15:03 Speaker 2 Follow up appointment with cardiologist. I asked the question directly. Doctor looked down and said, I cannot talk about it. At the risk of losing my job. That's. What do you think of that one, Rebecca? 01:00:15:03 - 01:00:27:08 Speaker 1 Yep, that's the one that I remember that I referenced earlier. That is just absolutely horrific. But there he sits on the operating table and they take out one of those clots from him. 01:00:27:10 - 01:00:55:08 Speaker 2 I know it's just some there's something else. Well this person she didn't mince words. My daughter died suddenly at age 45, in September of 2022. She was an athlete and her heart stopped while working out. She was an ER registered nurse and mandated to take the bioweapon and all boosters while on life support. They found a blockage just outside of her left ventricle. 01:00:55:09 - 01:01:20:00 Speaker 2 She suffered severe brain anoxia and was removed from life support. My son in law thought my insistence that this was from the bioweapon was complete lunacy. An autopsy was not offered and she was cremated the next day. My family has no history of heart issues. My daughter was an active, 100% healthy, clean eating mother of five. She was murdered. 01:01:20:02 - 01:01:22:14 Speaker 1 And they destroyed the evidence. 01:01:22:16 - 01:01:37:06 Speaker 2 Yeah. And that in contact with my whistleblower in Florida, my cath lab, worker. That endovascular specialist. He says that the clients were just being thrown away after they're taken out. They're not being sent to pathology. 01:01:37:08 - 01:01:41:08 Speaker 1 That is unbelievable. They send everything to pathology. 01:01:41:08 - 01:01:44:00 Speaker 2 Now, this is terrible. 01:01:44:02 - 01:02:05:10 Speaker 1 That is just an. And by the way, I want to point out again to, you know, we're talking about all these specific, very specific patient, stories. You don't know what one person's name is. You don't know age, sex. Well, if you these, you know, age, but you don't know, any of the details where they're from. There's no way you could trace this back to the actual people involved. 01:02:05:10 - 01:02:08:20 Speaker 1 And that, again, is no violation of privacy. 01:02:09:02 - 01:02:30:09 Speaker 2 These are these people I. If they wanted to volunteer their name and contact me, they were offered a chance to do so. But we let them take this survey anonymously. Lauren, I turned off the, IP tracking feature of SurveyMonkey, so we did not track them back to their computer or anything like that because we wanted to we wanted to have them feel comfortable taking the survey. 01:02:30:11 - 01:02:34:01 Speaker 1 Of course. Oh, this one's very telling. This is. 01:02:34:01 - 01:02:54:10 Speaker 2 Yeah. This is from a different angle, isn't it? Yep. I work I work fitting patients for compression garments. Most clots are in the legs, but several have expressed that cloth extended into their groins, stomach, chest, and one that went into the person's neck from their foot. Most of that cloth removed and are now wearing very tight compression to prevent new clots. 01:02:54:15 - 01:03:17:21 Speaker 2 Well, I have fit men for medical pantyhose. This was rare before I businesses increased three times to what it was in 2023, and the number of young people are shocking. Very few people have told me their issues are old or longstanding. Most have never had problems before. Only one revealed their job status and that they were jabbed, boosted. 01:03:17:23 - 01:03:22:10 Speaker 2 Many say the clots came on suddenly. There was a definite pattern. 01:03:22:12 - 01:03:35:12 Speaker 1 Wow, right? That is very telling. When someone's business explodes, there's your answer right there. Just look at the time table on that and you'll see, okay, this is what it began. 01:03:35:14 - 01:03:54:01 Speaker 2 Yeah. You know, and unfortunately business has been good for the cath labs and business has been good for the funeral industry. Over the last year, we've had about 10% excess mortality in highly vaccinated countries and in countries in Africa, for example, that have very low uptake on the jabs. Did that no problem. Excess mortality in last four years. 01:03:54:03 - 01:03:56:14 Speaker 1 Interesting. Yeah, I wonder why. 01:03:56:18 - 01:04:15:15 Speaker 2 So people say well I don't see that in my own daily life. Well think about it for a minute here. We're in America. We're a country of about three, 300 million people. About 3 million of us die every year, about one out of every 100 and, 10 to 10% excess mortality is 300,000 after Americans dying every year, right? 01:04:15:17 - 01:04:38:21 Speaker 2 10% of a 3 million. Well, but at a, individual level, 10% means instead of seeing ten people die this year, you see 11 people die, or, you know, that's 10% excess mortality. Are you really going to notice, though, 11 people dying this year versus ten last year? Probably not. Right. But so that's why it's so subtle at the individual level. 01:04:38:23 - 01:05:06:15 Speaker 2 But when you aggregate it up to large populations like 300 million people, you get 300,000 extra Americans dying every year for the last four years. That's 1.2 million people that I think have been killed by these jab. I'll just say it straight out. I think we've lost about 1.2 million Americans, and that just happens to be about the same amount of soldiers that have been lost in all American wars combined from the Revolutionary War through the through the current war. 01:05:06:17 - 01:05:17:04 Speaker 2 Really, about 1.2 million American soldiers have died. And all the wars. And I think I see the same number of civilians died in the last four years. For goodness. 01:05:17:04 - 01:05:30:13 Speaker 1 Gracious. Wow, what a boy. When you put it in that perspective, it just kind of hits you in the gut. Yeah. What do you do? You expect any good things to happen now that, RFK Jr is at the wheel? 01:05:30:15 - 01:05:48:11 Speaker 2 I do, you know, I was, I just came back, from a five day trip. I went to Washington, DC to go to see PAC because I wanted to keep this issue alive. And so I took these vials of the clots with me, and they were the stars of the show. I didn't I didn't have to do a whole lot of talking when I show these. 01:05:48:15 - 01:05:53:14 Speaker 2 I actually did interviews on their media row with about 20 different media people. People just like. 01:05:53:18 - 01:05:54:00 Speaker 1 Great. 01:05:54:05 - 01:05:58:18 Speaker 2 Hey, come interview me. Can I do an interview next? In an interview next. So I was doing. 01:05:58:18 - 01:06:09:06 Speaker 1 It and they let you say the word Covid. You know, so many people, shy away from saying the words. You know, there are certain trigger words like Covid and vaccine and things like that. You say is, yeah. 01:06:09:06 - 01:06:15:18 Speaker 2 So I think the, the, the air starting to clear, people are starting to get a little bit more bold about talking about it on their media. 01:06:15:19 - 01:06:18:10 Speaker 1 Okay. Good. So that's a good sign right. 01:06:18:12 - 01:06:56:07 Speaker 2 But I want us to be there. Yeah. And I wanted to be there to remind our politicians that, you know, because I've seen the Maha movement, I love the mom movement, I love RFK Jr. And the fact that Jay Bhattacharya are going to be in charge now. Fantastic. But I've also a little concern because recently we've seen the Maha movement Make America Healthy again, talk more about things like, red dyes in the food, fluoride in the water, and those are important issues to to me, the number one issue is still these white fibrous cloths and the other things like turbo cancers, miscarriages, nerve damage, you know, myocarditis they're killing. 01:06:56:11 - 01:07:15:17 Speaker 2 Like I said, I think they've killed 1.2 million people over the last four years. So I want to see a pressure put on to take these vaccines off the market, because I believe that they are not only not effective, I believe they're dangerous. And as you know, Rebecca, big Pharma is not stopping, right? Moderna has a RSV shot out right now. 01:07:15:17 - 01:07:19:13 Speaker 2 This mRNA based using the same lipid nanoparticle after Covid shot. 01:07:19:13 - 01:07:20:20 Speaker 1 Oh that's right. Yeah. 01:07:20:22 - 01:07:42:13 Speaker 2 Yeah. For adults now they try to get one approved for infants. Recently the FDA finally did the good thing and they shot that down. They had to because they did a trial. And the the vaccinated arm, there were five infants that developed severe RSV after they got their vaccine, the only one in the placebo group that got RSV. 01:07:42:15 - 01:08:03:13 Speaker 2 So it was the exact opposite of what it should have been, right? The vaccinated, it's worse than the placebo arm. So the FDA wanted to know. We're not letting you release that shot for infants. But, you know, as you know, big pharma has this technology plan for our future. They want to do RSV, shingles, bird flu, regular flu, more Covid shot. 01:08:03:15 - 01:08:25:12 Speaker 2 They've retooled, retooled their whole life. We got 30 or 40 of these shots planned for over the next decade. They want you saw recently we were talking about cancer drugs using mRNA and lipid nanoparticle technology. So I don't think it's ready for prime time. Neither does, Doctor Robert Malone. Neither did his doctor, Peter McCullough. You know, others in the movement. 01:08:25:17 - 01:08:32:22 Speaker 2 So we're calling for a ban of this mRNA technology. So we just don't think it's right for humans, at least not at this point in time. 01:08:33:00 - 01:08:49:23 Speaker 1 Well, and there are other things that need to be addressed are, of course, the the new and improved definition of vaccines, which, yeah, you know, it was off the charts. And then the fact that vaccine manufacturers don't have any liability that's that's unheard of. And the fact they're still. 01:08:49:23 - 01:09:04:20 Speaker 2 Allowed to advertise on television because that's, that corrupts the news, because then the newscasters can't go in and dig in. You know, the reporters can't go and dig on a story that may show negative the vaccines in a negative light, because their paychecks are sponsored by Big Pharma. 01:09:04:21 - 01:09:09:23 Speaker 1 And then what percentage of FDA's budget is paid for by Big Pharma. 01:09:10:00 - 01:09:10:08 Speaker 2 For. 01:09:10:14 - 01:09:12:17 Speaker 1 Licensing fees? You know, in. 01:09:12:19 - 01:09:33:00 Speaker 2 The last the last ten FDA commissioners, I believe nine of them have gone on to work for Big Pharma after they, you know, so that's right. That's what RFK is there to do. He's there to disrupt and destroy that revolving door, get rid of that, conflict of interest that takes place right now between our regulatory agencies like the FDA, CDC. 01:09:33:00 - 01:09:34:21 Speaker 2 They're supposed to be protecting us. 01:09:34:23 - 01:09:35:06 Speaker 1 Right? 01:09:35:10 - 01:09:41:02 Speaker 2 We're supposed to have our interests at heart, not the advertiser for big pharma or rubber stampers, right? 01:09:41:04 - 01:09:49:12 Speaker 1 Well, of course, that's for altruistic, but none of those agencies should exist anyway. If our federal government kept itself within the constitutional bounds, our founders framed for it. 01:09:49:12 - 01:09:51:22 Speaker 2 Amen. Amen. Yeah. 01:09:51:23 - 01:10:16:02 Speaker 1 So the whole thing with Elon Musk and his, you know, his, chainsaw. I mean, I get that I think the chainsaw was a little bit much. We can do that. We can all do this quietly and, and, you know, in, in, very rational and legal bounds, but, yeah, I mean, there are very, very few federal agencies that are actually constitutionally, 01:10:16:04 - 01:10:16:19 Speaker 2 Right. 01:10:16:21 - 01:10:17:08 Speaker 1 Lawful. 01:10:17:09 - 01:10:24:20 Speaker 2 You have a military to protect this and maybe take care of the Interstate highway system and just a couple other things. That's about all they should do, right? 01:10:24:20 - 01:10:33:10 Speaker 1 Yeah. The president needs a cabinet. Yeah, but we don't need we certainly don't need Big Brother telling us we had to take care of our own health. 01:10:33:12 - 01:10:51:21 Speaker 2 And I'm glad you mentioned that because, you know, the whole apparatus is is still in place to lock us down again, make us mask up again, make us take shots again, like people have been trying to battle in states against, you know, state, laws and legislatures and trying to get the, new police, the apparatus taken down. 01:10:51:21 - 01:11:10:01 Speaker 2 But it's it's hard because once governments at any level, whether it's federal, state or local, take that power. They like that power. They, you know, and so many people, their lives were destroyed by the either lost their jobs or coerced to taking jobs that injured them or killed them in some cases. 01:11:10:01 - 01:11:13:05 Speaker 1 Job. You lost your job as a military contractor because you were. 01:11:13:06 - 01:11:23:18 Speaker 2 People lost businesses. People were called non-essential. It was just horrific what little kids were masked up to go to school. Elementary kids had to go to school all day wearing a mask. I mean, that's that. 01:11:23:20 - 01:11:42:14 Speaker 1 I have a friend who is a dental hygienist, and she said that she would have on Sunday nights, she would have panic attacks, knowing that she was having to go back to work the next day because they were masking them and putting the big face shields on and the masks and double masks and all this. And she said she would have because she can breathe. 01:11:42:16 - 01:11:44:18 Speaker 2 Yeah. No. Yeah. It's just. 01:11:44:20 - 01:11:50:06 Speaker 1 Made for, for long term where they're made for about 50 under 15 minutes and then they come on, they. 01:11:50:06 - 01:11:54:01 Speaker 2 Were ineffective in the first place. You know, the, their study after study showed that. Yeah. 01:11:54:01 - 01:12:05:13 Speaker 1 So it was everybody in medicine knows that. That's why I thought, oh, this is the biggest sell out of it. Because everybody anybody who's been through the first year of, of nursing school knows masks. All right. 01:12:05:13 - 01:12:14:14 Speaker 2 And they've got denial of, natural immunity to when people already had Covid, but you still made them take a shot anyways. Then you knew something sinister was really going on. 01:12:14:14 - 01:12:18:22 Speaker 1 Just goes on. The list goes on and on and on, I know. Yeah, we could we could continue. 01:12:19:04 - 01:12:20:18 Speaker 2 Yeah. We can talk all night on that. 01:12:20:20 - 01:12:33:03 Speaker 1 Absolutely. Okay. So let's run through what do we want people to do. We want people to answer the survey to to take your people survey. Correct. Or if you have any embalmers in the audience. We certainly wish that embalmers survey still open. 01:12:33:04 - 01:12:48:15 Speaker 2 No, that one's closed. But there'll be another one next year. You know, Bobby and Jay are in charge now. I just to keep the CDC and the FDA honest. I'm going to continue to run the surveys with Laura until we, until we get these things taken off the market. Unfortunately. 01:12:48:17 - 01:12:51:07 Speaker 1 Okay, great. Well, I would put links to verify. 01:12:51:07 - 01:12:55:10 Speaker 2 Rebecca. That's what I, I like the Ronald Reagan quote. Trust but verify. 01:12:55:16 - 01:13:05:02 Speaker 1 Exactly. Amen to that. Okay. So I will put links to everything I especially that people survey. Is there anything else that you want that you would like people to do anything. 01:13:05:04 - 01:13:14:06 Speaker 2 Just for our, Substack page? It's free. You can subscribe for free. We don't charge any money. We're not we're not grifting. We're not we we don't have book deals. We don't. 01:13:14:07 - 01:13:15:12 Speaker 1 You know. 01:13:15:14 - 01:13:32:16 Speaker 2 So we're just trying to put good information out there so people can understand and then send your loved ones. Because I'm probably preaching to the choir here. Your audience probably never took the jabs or stop taking them a long time ago, but it gives them a tool that they can send to their loved ones, like, implore them to do that. 01:13:32:16 - 01:13:50:22 Speaker 2 And I know it's hard sometimes because can cause fights with family members and friends. Yeah, but I think it's important for them to send them to information that they may, because these things can help people change their minds. You know, the other the other side effects are hard to understand, but this one's not right. You know, you see these things, right? 01:13:50:22 - 01:14:10:11 Speaker 2 They exist. So when people see that in laws got terrific pictures, photographs from, lots of them from, our good friend Richard Hirschman, the embalmer. That's. So, again, I encourage them to go to Laura kastner.substack.com. See all of our, surveys, our work. 01:14:10:13 - 01:14:12:13 Speaker 1 And that's clot test fee. Right? 01:14:12:19 - 01:14:14:15 Speaker 2 Correct. Clot for. 01:14:14:17 - 01:14:23:02 Speaker 1 Nixon for. And so that's wonderful. Tom, thank you so much for your time today. This has been invaluable information and God bless you for the work you've done. Laura, to. 01:14:23:04 - 01:14:26:18 Speaker 2 Thank you for getting it out to the world. Rebecca. 01:14:26:20 - 01:14:47:03 Speaker 3 And we here at the animal shelter now, why are we at the animal shelter talking about adopting animals? Well, it should be clear by now that we're not really interested in talking about drugs that can harm people more than help them. No, no, not with 80% of our ad revenue at stake. Nope. From here on out, it's puppies and kittens and kittens and puppies and. 01:14:47:05 - 01:14:52:01 Speaker 3 Oh, that was a butterfly. 01:14:52:03 - 01:15:04:03 Speaker 3 Avoid the distractions. Subscribe to the New American at the New american.com.