The co-pilots have diverted the rocket of right thinking for a short jingle break, but to keep you all sane over the festive period they have prised open the archives to revisit some of their biggest interviews.

On this second of two Christmas specials of the Planet Normal podcast, which you can listen to using the audio player above, columnists Liam Halligan and Allison Pearson speak to former Prime Minister Liz Truss, who believes her mini budget was a ‘scape-goat’ for other problems bubbling beneath the surface.

Plus, joining the rocket to discuss a very poignant subject is IDF soldier Ben, who was part of a squad that had gone into one of the worst attacked kibbutz after the 7th October attack.

Listen to Planet Normal, a weekly Telegraph podcast featuring news and views from beyond the bubble, using the audio player above or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or your preferred podcast app.