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The Last Refuge
The Last Refuge
23 Mar 2025


NextImg:Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick Outlines President Trump, "The Most Intuitive Man Who Ever Lived" - The Last Refuge

Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick appears for an extensive discussion with the All In podcast.  Secretary Lutnick has been a 30-year friend of President Trump and is currently one of the most critical members of the MAGAnomic team who are executing Trump’s agenda to Make America Great Again.

Secretary Lutnick outlines the background of what makes President Trump so effective in his position, and within the discussion Lutnick notes at the core of Donald Trump is “the most intuitive person he has ever known.”  This is a casual discussion about President Trump and how Lutnick came into the administration.  WATCH:

CHAPTERS:

(0:00) Chamath and Friedberg welcome Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick!
(1:10) Howard describes his 30+ year relationship with President Trump and his road from business to politics
(14:44) Running Trump’s transition team, DOGE origin story, what it’s like working for Trump
(38:01) Balancing the budget and fixing GDP
(52:21) Tariff history and strategy, global trade
(1:10:34) Trump Cards, building better government software, AI thoughts
(1:22:49) Sovereign Wealth Fund strategy
(1:37:16) How his family reacted to his new role