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NextImg:Experiencing Un-Brainwashing: How a Former Propaganda Expert Changed My Perspective

Back in May, I spoke with Professor Li Shaomin, a painter who created propaganda for the Chinese communist regime, including portraits of former leader Mao Zedong.

I hoped he would help me resolve my emotional dilemma mentioned several episodes ago in “U.S.-China Breakup: It’s Getting Personal.”

When the Trump administration began revoking Chinese student visas earlier this month, my identity as a Chinese-American was shaken to the core. So I asked Professor Li to help me understand why I was having this reaction.

Well, he’s back on the show. And what he told me was beyond my expectations.

He demystified CCP propaganda for me by speaking of his own experience, and helped me identify its residual effects still within me, and granted me more inner freedom.

He also has advice for Americans who want to help their Chinese friends navigate this new era of U.S.–China conflict.

Views expressed in this episode are opinions of the host and guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.

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