“It’s easy to ignore it when the numbers are small. But not only are the numbers getting bigger, but this cumulative effect is becoming more significant as well.”

Siyamak sits down with Jim Doti, an economist and former president of Chapman University. He talks about the growing trend of people leaving California and what impacts it has on the state.

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