Congress and the White House talk tough on the Chinese Communist Party—but there’s little evidence U.S. officials are doing anything about what they say is America’s chief strategic threat. Veteran China watcher Michael Pillsbury has an action plan to change that. and he’s keeping score to make sure the U.S. government is keeping its word to keep China in check.

In this eye-opening, fact-filled episode of Over the Target, Lee Smith speaks with Pillsbury, the Heritage Foundation’s senior fellow for China Strategy.