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20 Nov 2023
Michael BarbaroMooj ZadieRachel QuesterMarion LozanoChris Wood


NextImg:The New Speaker Avoided a Shutdown. Can He Avoid Being Ousted?

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By working with Democrats to avert a government shutdown this past week, Speaker Mike Johnson seemed to put himself on the same path that doomed his predecessor. Or did he?

Catie Edmondson, who covers Congress for The Times, explains why things could be different this time.


On today’s episode

Catie Edmondson, a reporter in the Washington bureau of The New York Times.

ImageMike Johnson is pictured from the side looking down. An American flag can be seen in the background.
Speaker Mike Johnson pushed staggered deadlines as a way to force Congress to act while avoiding the usual Christmas deadline crunch.Credit...Kenny Holston/The New York Times

Background reading

  • Congress prevented a shutdown, but the spending fight is far from over.

  • Almost all Democrats and a majority of Republicans overcame the opposition of G.O.P. conservatives to approve the bill under special expedited procedures. But that approach, hatched by Mr. Johnson in his first weeks as speaker, is a gamble.

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Catie Edmondson contributed reporting.

The Daily is made by Rachel Quester, Lynsea Garrison, Clare Toeniskoetter, Paige Cowett, Michael Simon Johnson, Brad Fisher, Chris Wood, Jessica Cheung, Stella Tan, Alexandra Leigh Young, Lisa Chow, Eric Krupke, Marc Georges, Luke Vander Ploeg, M.J. Davis Lin, Dan Powell, Sydney Harper, Mike Benoist, Liz O. Baylen, Asthaa Chaturvedi, Rachelle Bonja, Diana Nguyen, Marion Lozano, Corey Schreppel, Rob Szypko, Elisheba Ittoop, Mooj Zadie, Patricia Willens, Rowan Niemisto, Jody Becker, Rikki Novetsky, John Ketchum, Nina Feldman, Will Reid, Carlos Prieto, Ben Calhoun, Susan Lee, Lexie Diao, Mary Wilson, Alex Stern, Dan Farrell, Sophia Lanman, Shannon Lin, Diane Wong, Devon Taylor, Alyssa Moxley, Summer Thomad, Olivia Natt, Daniel Ramirez and Brendan Klinkenberg.

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