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Michelle Goldberg, the Times Opinion columnist, and Patrick Healy, the deputy Opinion editor, discuss the best and worst moments of the debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. Will Harris’s apparent debate night victory matter to the swing state voters who can make the difference?
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‘I Feel Like She Humiliated Him’: How Trump Lost the Debate
Two Opinion writers break down the Trump-Harris debate.Patrick Healy: Tonight was a crucial moment in this strange, chaotic, unpredictable presidential race. All eyes had been on Kamala Harris, and given her short time as a candidate, she hasn’t had many of these spontaneous and unscripted moments to really show herself and prove herself to a lot of voters.
And Michelle, you said before the debate that beyond any specifics on policy, the only thing that really mattered is if Kamala Harris wins it. So how are you feeling about how she did tonight?
Michelle Goldberg: I mean, she won it. I don’t think there’s any question about that.
I was extremely anxious coming into this because the stakes are so incredibly high, and Kamala Harris hasn’t always been the best at speaking extemporaneously. She can sometimes lapse into word salad.