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12 Jun 2023


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Last week, Donald Trump was charged with federal violations relating to his handling of classified material after leaving office.

Ben Protess, who covers the government and law enforcement for The Times, discusses the indictment and walks us through the evidence.


On today’s episode

Ben Protess, an investigative reporter for The New York Times.

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Boxes of records stored on a stage in a ballroom at the Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla.Credit...Justice Department, via Associated Press

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