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On Monday, Iowa holds the first contest in the Republican presidential nominating process and nobody will have more on the line than Ron DeSantis. The Florida governor staked his candidacy on a victory in Iowa, a victory that now seems increasingly remote.

Shane Goldmacher, a national political reporter for The Times, and the Daily producers Rob Szypko and Carlos Prieto explain what Mr. DeSantis’s challenge has looked like on the ground in Iowa.


On today’s episode

Shane Goldmacher, a national political correspondent for The New York Times.

ImageDeSantis is speaking to a crowd of onlookers in a crowded room.
Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida speaking in Cumming, Iowa, last week. He has campaigned hard in the state.Credit...Scott Morgan/Reuters

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Shane Goldmacher, Rob Szypko and Carlos Prieto contributed reporting.

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