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20 Mar 2023


NextImg:How TikTok Became a Matter of National Security

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TikTok, the app known for short videos of lip syncing, dancing and bread baking, is one of the most popular platforms in the country, used by one out of every three Americans.

In recent weeks, the Biden administration has threatened to ban it over concerns that it poses a threat to national security.


On today’s episode

Sapna Maheshwari, a business reporter for The New York Times.

ImageA gray, multistory building is at the end of a long walkway with railings on each side. The brutalist building features lime green and turquoise external staircases leading between different floors.
TikTok’s office in Culver City, California.Credit...Rozette Rago for The New York Times

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Sapna Maheshwari contributed reporting.

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