


Sunny Hostin and Alyssa Farah Griffin got into a heated debate on this morning’s episode of The View after the latter seemingly offended her co-host by claiming the “vast majority” of Americans are not racist.
What started as a Hot Topics conversation about Nikki Haley blaming Barack Obama for dividing the country quickly turned into a tense discussion about race. While Griffin acknowledged that there “are absolutely racist people in this country,” she also believes that racists do not make up “the vast majority of people” in America.
“We don’t know that!” Joy Behar chimed in, while Hostin pointed out that white supremacy is “the biggest threat to our country today,” according to FBI director Christopher A. Wray.
Still, Griffin countered, “That still doesn’t mean that that’s the vast majority of people. I just don’t believe that in my day-to-day life, that the people you’re encountering harbor racist viewpoints,” to which Hostin fired back, “If you looked like me, you would believe differently.”
Having been put in her place, Griffin then asked Hostin to help her understand whether she truly believes most Americans are racist.
“I think that there is a significant portion that are racist and you can’t dismiss my lived experience,” Hostin snapped. “When I say that there are a lot of racists in this country — I just experienced my son walking down the beach being called the N-word several times in Florida. So you can’t say, ‘I believe that the vast majority of people aren’t racist.’ We don’t know that.”
Griffin eventually backed down, telling Hostin, “That’s fair. There are 300 million people in this country. I would never minimize your lived experience any more than I would mine as an Arab woman.”

However, the former White House staffer wasn’t the only panelist who dared to go up against Hostin. As the chaotic chat progressed, even the often-neutral Sara Haines got snippy with the legal expert.
“[Haley is] doing what every politician does in DC. Panders, double talks, flip-flops,” Haines said. “Anyone that believes there is some kind of iconic DC politician that does not play the same game every time an election rolls around, they’re being intellectually dishonest. This is what they do.”
When Hostin asked where the Republican candidate’s “moral compass” is, Haines hit back, “Where is the moral compass in D.C., Sunny? That’s naive.”
It’s hardly even noon and we already need a glass of wine! Thank god Dry January is over.
The View airs on weekdays at 11/10c on ABC.