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Below is the video of remarks given by a panel of Freedom Center luminaries at the Las Vegas Retreat held on Sept. 11 & 12 at the Fontainebleau Hotel in Las Vegas. The panel featured FrontPage Mag editor and Glazov Gang host Jamie Glazov; Center CEO Daniel Greenfield; writer, assistant editor, and podcast host Mark Tapson; author and Jihad Watch director Robert Spencer; and FPM assistant editor and contributor Christine Douglass-Williams.

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Transcript: The Freedom Center on the Front Lines.

Jamie Glazov:

The Freedom Center on the front lines. Definitely a title that David gave birth to and would approve of very much today in terms of also, of course, the tragedy that just happened recently with Charlie Kirk. The front line symbolizes a war and a battle, and also very much a cosmic and spiritual battle that we’re all in.

I’ll just very, very quickly talk a little bit about myself. And I hope that our wonderful panelists do as well, just so you get a little feel for who we are, because we’ve lost our wonderful general, who was bigger than life. And so we’re here now to see what we can do, to keep the battle going and also to keep the battle going with the tactics that he taught us.

So I’ll just be very brief and won’t make it about myself, but it’s also important. I’d like for our panelists to also talk about themselves a little bit in terms of who we are and how we got here. So just very briefly, my mom and dad were dissidents in the Soviet Union, and they risked their lives and they almost ended up in the Gulag, and we were persecuted Christians there.

And to make a five-hour story 60 seconds, we were able to escape in the 70s, and I was just a little kid, and I’m that story of the son of Soviet immigrants. And so I was raised at a table where we were discussing the political prisoners, the millions of people that were killed by communism.

The Soviet regime killed most of my family and my family members. And at the age of, I would say, 8 or 9, I dedicated my life to fighting communism, but especially the ideas that created those monstrous, earthly incarnations. I dedicated my whole life to fighting the left. And, to make another ten-hour story very short, I read about David Horowitz, and I ended up at one time, sending a little script I had written to him.

And so it all happened from there. And I became the editor of Front Page Magazine, which is the Center’s intellectual flagship. And David taught us a lot. And this was our motto, that it’s the war at home and abroad. So we’re focusing on our enemies abroad, but we’re also focusing on the entities here at home that give them life and aid and abet them.

So this is what Front Page is about. Speaking about Front Page, this wonderful gentleman is not here at this second, but I very much wanted to thank Doctor Bob Shillman because, there were many years where I was panicking and I didn’t have a lead feature. And if David knew you didn’t have the lead feature ready, there might be some trouble.

And, just a wonderful warrior he was. But, you know, the magazine was just on fire at all times. And I was short of writers for several years or many years. And now I have these wonderful Shillman Fellows who just saved Front Page Magazine, Daniel Greenfield and Mark Tapson and Robert Spencer. And Christine is kind of a Shillman Fellow by proxy, I think.

Let’s just begin. And so we have lost our wonderful general. But he’s here in spirit, and we learned a lot from him, and I learned so much from him. And, Front Page is a think tank, but, like the Center, it’s also a battle tank. And David always taught that this is a war and David understood that most conservatives don’t understand battle.

I just wanted to thank Doctor Bob Shillman for that because he gave us the Shillman Fellows and he took a lot of stress off my back, but also made the magazine so wonderful. So we’ll give him a hand while he’s not here.

And even right now, the tragedy with Charlie Kirk and, there’s just some commentators there, even on Fox News and on social media, saying how all the violence has to end. We have to end this hatred and the violence. This has to stop. Just what are you talking about? The devil does not go away.

Their assumption is that Auschwitz and Stalin’s Gulag is something that just happened in the past. And everything’s going to be better now. They don’t understand: This war is nonstop. This is where Reagan was so wise when he said: Every generation is just one generation away from slavery. There has to be constant shedding of blood because it’s a just a constant war. And so I just wanted to stress that, because there’s a lot of people that live within an emotional incapacity, and they don’t like to listen to me a lot of the time, because they just want to hear that everything will be fine and we’re just going to fix this.

And no. There’s always going to be this battle until of course, whatever our faith is, we are, you know, Christians and Jews. We’re brothers and sisters here, but we share some things in terms of the reality that things will get darker before the redemption comes. So we have to be prepared for that.

I want our wonderful guests just to talk a little bit about themselves.

Daniel Greenfield, our new CEO and just a brilliant man. And what an honor to be with him on the front lines. And he writes brilliant pieces for us. Mark Tapson, also a Shillman Fellow, is my colleague at Front Page, and I just call him sometimes, and I say, I really, really need an article within a half an hour. And, he’s brilliant in that way. Thank you. Mark, I don’t know if many of you know, maybe he’ll talk about it. He was one of the main creators of the documentary The Path to 911 at ABC.

We also have the one and only, the man, the myth and the legend, Robert Spencer. When I assign him an article, it usually arrives before I press send. I don’t know how he does it, but thank you, Robert. He is an expert on our enemy abroad, and also on our enemy at home. How Islam and the left work together.

And the wonderful Christine Williams. There’s a reason we both say “eh” at the end of our sentences, maybe I do a little bit more than her, but we’re both from Toronto and, there was a time when this lovely lady invited me on her TV show.

And then many years later, I invited her to work at front Page Magazine. Christine really gets the war that we’re in. Just a really, very keen, profound understanding of the enemy we face and what we have to do. I don’t want to give away her privacy, but Christine has put her life on the line on many levels, and she’s gotten into quite a bit of trouble in Canada and internationally for her stand for the truth, and I very much respect you for that, Christine. And, as I do everybody else on the panel.

So why don’t we begin with Mark Tapson. Maybe you can talk a little bit about yourself and about the war we’re in and, why you’re here and why you’re part of our battle tank. Thank you.

Mark Tapson

That’s a lot of ground to cover. Especially because I tend to ramble if I’m not on script. My wife says that I need a GPS to get to the point. And she’s absolutely right about that.

Well, I used to be a Democrat many years ago. But I was not an activist or a far-leftist by any means. In fact, I wasn’t really political at all. I was probably what most conservatives would think of as a brain-dead liberal. I didn’t really think about politics. I wasn’t interested in it at all.

But I lived in a very tightly circumscribed, liberal bubble. I was a musician in San Francisco. Also, part of the time that I lived in San Francisco, I was in academia, you know, another very tightly circumscribed liberal bubble where everybody, literally everybody thought alike and held the same opinions. And everyone outside that bubble was basically a knuckle-dragging racist.

That’s how we viewed everybody.

And my political awakening began when I moved to Los Angeles and began, I got involved in Hollywood, and I began working for a director whom you may all know, Cyrus Nowrasteh, a writer-director. And he was conservative. And I didn’t, we never talked politics. I didn’t even know he was conservative for quite a while.

But we got involved in this project which Jamie mentioned, an ABC miniseries called The Path to 911, which turned out to be very controversial. It was, basically about the eight years that led from the first World Trade Center bombing up to the attacks on 9/11. And, we Cyrus and I — I mean, I was not a major contributor to that project, except to the extent that I was an assistant to Cyrus.

And we talked about ideas, we talked about the history. I did a tremendous amount of research for this project, which began to open my eyes about a couple of things. First, the Islamic threat, which I’d been clueless about, even after 9/11, I was not very educated about it. And this goes back to about 2003, 2004, by the way.

So doing all the research for the project really began to open my eyes in a lot of ways. And also, I watched the leftist reaction to The Path to 9/11, even before it appeared, because word got around to the Clinton Administration alumni that ABC was putting together this miniseries about the years in which he was president and he allowed Islamic terrorism to thrive. And they felt that this was going to reflect badly not only on Bill, but mostly on Hillary, because they knew Hillary was going to be running for president. So the left pulled out all the stops to destroy this miniseries, well before it aired. It became front page news. We had politicians like Harry, like, I’m blanking out on his name.

I’ll think of it. Oh, Harry, Harry Reid, thank you. Harry Reid threatened to pull ABC’s license if they aired this miniseries. Now, remember that no one had read the script. No one had seen the movie yet, but the left had decided that this was bad news for Clinton. And Cyrus was very even-handed. He and I never had a political discussion about this series.

It was all just history and story and how to make it all work. And we also put blame on the Bush administration, to the extent that the Bush administration was responsible for 9/11. But anyway, and again, I’m rambling already. The internet began to wage a campaign of harassment against everybody involved in the project.

Cyrus began getting death threats. The director of the miniseries, who was not even — who was not even a political guy, but his father ran some kind of a Christian charity. He began getting death threats. The word went out that this was a secret cabal of conservatives working within the system to create this propaganda, as if conservatives could put together a $30 million miniseries at ABC.

Anyway, that also opened my eyes, because I began to see for the first time that the party that I thought I belonged to was not the kind of classical liberals that I considered myself. They were radicals, and they were dangerous. And violent. And that was over 20, that was 20 years ago. Things have escalated since then.

But that began my political awakening, and Cyrus began to introduce me to a lot of Hollywood conservatives. And, lo and behold, they weren’t the knuckle-dragging racists that I’ve been taught or that I’ve been led to believe. They were all intelligent, good-hearted, smart people and creative people who cared about their country. And so that began my political conversion.

And I met Andrew Breitbart, the late, great Andrew Breitbart, who invited me to write for a website that he had started called Big Hollywood, which was for conservatives who worked in Hollywood. And so I began writing for that, and that began my career as a political commentator. And shortly after that, I met David Horowitz and Jamie.

I began writing for FrontPage Mag, and Horowitz gradually figured out who I was, and things just sort of took off from there. And now I’m honored to be sitting at this panel working for the Freedom Center. Sorry, my voice is a little strained these days. So I’m honored to be up here.

I’m honored to be working for the Freedom Center. I’ve always been proud of the fact that it is a battle tank and not just another think tank. And I think these are times that really call for a battle tank. Let me just say real briefly about where I think things stand in terms of that fight. Since I’ve already used up most of my time.

I want to say, first of all, I think Jamie is absolutely correct to say that we’re in a time of intense spiritual warfare. And I think that is a very valid and important perspective through which to view everything that’s happening. But beyond that, I think Charlie’s murder — and forgive me if I get emotional because these days, at my age, I get emotional at the drop of a hat, and I’m still processing grief over Charlie and over his family, and over this, this nation, I think.

And I’m not alone. I know I’m not alone. Everybody is. But I think Charlie’s murder highlights the fact that that we are in this country in a hot civil war. It’s not just a culture war. It’s not a cold civil war. It’s a hot civil war. Except that only one side’s been fighting that hot civil war. And I think it’s just going to escalate.

I’m actually very bad at predictions, so hopefully I’m wrong about this, but, I think that’s going to escalate. I don’t think the left is going to rein itself in, and it’s certainly not going to police itself. I think we’re going to see before long, we’re going to see levels of terroristic activism that is reminiscent of the days of rage of the late 1960s.

And I think conservatives are going to have to wrap their heads around that and come together and agree that agree on a valid and effective means of confronting a political movement that gleefully embraces assassination. And we can have lots and should have lots of conversations about exactly what that response should be. But I think, we didn’t start this civil war and we didn’t want it.

But we better be prepared to do what it takes to end it, because this country cannot sustain itself the way things are going, and the left is not going to come to its senses. As John Phillips pointed out earlier today, you know, there are different kinds of Democrats. I mean, there are brain-dead liberals like the one I used to be.

But those people are largely irrelevant. The radical left controls the party, and has for many years. And, they’re not going to police themselves. They’re not going to back down. I think it’s going to get worse before it gets better. And I just think conservatives need to embrace the reality of the violent times that we’re in.

I didn’t know Charlie very well, actually. But I know that he wouldn’t want for the right to call for violent retribution or revenge. And I’m not calling for that either. But as I said, I think conservatives need to have serious conversations about what it’s going to take to end the division in the country and to end this culture of political violence that the left has fomented and is, pushing for, with, with all its might and intensity. So anyway, that’s enough for me.

Jamie Glazov

Mark, that was fantastic. And I’ll just get back to you just for a couple more seconds. Ladies and gentlemen, Mark is an expert on many things, but especially on the war on masculinity. And there’s definitely a war on men and women. And so this is a very long discussion. And again, part of the spiritual battle. And, for another time and place, and as a Christian, I see it also as a war on Our Father in heaven in terms of the war on masculinity today.

I think this is at the core of our battle. Even during this “pandemic,” I was always thinking, in terms of whether we should wear masks or not and whether we should be forced to have certain potions injected into our body, who should run society? Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jean-Claude Van Damme, or Whoopi Goldberg and Rosie O’Donnell and, I think that says a lot.

The left wants certain kinds of people running our society. But, Mark, can you briefly talk about the war on masculinity?

Mark Tapson

Yeah, I think it’s very important. The war on masculinity. I’ve been writing about it for many years. It’s a big topic now. And it should be — essentially what it comes down to in terms of the way the left views masculinity is. Masculinity is essentially the last line of defense. It’s actually the first line of defense also; the first and last line of defense against totalitarianism.

And so if you go all the way back to Karl Marx, you know, his primary strategy was the abolition of the family. He openly expressed this. And, of course, you can see the war on the family that’s going on today, and that’s part of it. But the primary goal is the destruction or the eradication of masculinity. And this is why, you see, this is why transgenderism is such a major issue now, and why I think it’s the hill that the left will die on.

I think it is the very last thing that the left will give up is transgenderism, because it’s at the heart of the Marxist call to abolish the family. If you can eradicate definitions of male and female, which they’re already there, already doing. We already have a Supreme Court justice who refuses to define what a woman is.

So this is their aim, to eradicate the distinctions between male and female. Because this tears apart the fabric of the family. And the family is the unit that, as I said, Karl Marx wanted to abolish in order to further his utopian vision. And if you can destroy, if you can eliminate the energy, the masculine energy that powers the family, that powers a community, and that powers a civilization,

if you can destroy that or tear that down or, emasculate it, then you win. Then the state becomes our father, and the state becomes the masculine power. And that is the goal. So that’s one of the reasons. One of the reasons that I focus a lot on, on writing about masculinity and the state of it today.

Jamie Glazov

Thank you so much, Mark.

Robert Spencer is the expert in defining who our enemy is. Thank you, Robert, for being a truth teller. The left has tried to push you into the spheres of invisibility for your courageous truth-telling.

Please go ahead.

Robert Spencer:

Thank you. I think it’s clear at this point that we are not in a battle of Republicans versus Democrats or right versus left, but good versus evil. And we have to bear that in mind that, as Mark was explaining in various ways, this is a spiritual struggle with immense implications. And all of the aspects of it are linked together in various ways.

And that’s one of the remarkable things that I think is a tremendous and lasting achievement of the David Horowitz Freedom Center. And David Horowitz himself, Charlie Kirk, actually, just not too long ago, wrote, “Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America.” Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America.

Now, when I saw that, I thought, well, it’s remarkable that he realizes that, and that’s all to the good. But it’s even more remarkable something that probably very few people took notice of. He did not say “Islamism” or “radical Islam” or “the twisted, hijacked version of Islam represented by terrorists.” He said “Islam.”

Now the fact is that that is the case. Like it or not, believe it or not, Islam as an ideology and a political system is aggressive supremacist, violent and expansionist, and has been moving against the West and at war with the West for 14 centuries. It has not changed, it has not reformed, and it is not going to.

And you may think that the moderate Muslims or so-called Muslim reformers in the West that we see featured so prominently on so many broadcasts of so many people, both right and left, who were so eager to believe this, you may think they’ll carry the day and reform the rest of them, when actually none of them have any significant followings. And all of them go against the traditional teachings of Islam. It’s as if I were to say, be up here and say to you, well, I’m a Christian, but I believe in the goddess ISIS and worship her at every opportunity.

You would say, well, you’re a very funny kind of Christian, and a Muslim who says Islam is actually religion of peace, if you understand it properly, is just that funny kind of Muslim who is going against very obvious and readily established double aspects of his faith.

You know, why am I going all over all this yet again? Well, in the first place, because nobody ever gets it, although Charlie did. But also because David Horowitz over 20 years ago, when I was one of the only people saying this was one of the only people to say, this is something that we’re going to make part of our presentation at the David Horowitz Freedom Center. This is not something we’re going to shy away from. And at a time when people on both the left and the right, you know, George W Bush went to the mosque six days after 911, and he was standing there with the leader of the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic relations and with Abdurahman Alamoudi of the American Muslim Council, who is currently in prison for financing al al-Qaida.

And he stood with them because they were moderate. They were the moderate Muslims of the day. And he said, Islam is peace. And this was something that became the essentially the official policy of the Republican Party, at least the Republican establishment. And of large portions of the conservative movement. But David Horowitz was never afraid to tell the truth, even when the truth was unpopular and many people didn’t want it to be told.

And so I think that one of the most enduring legacies of David Horowitz and of our work at the Freedom Center is the fact that not only did he allow for this message to be propagated, but also that we were among the first, if not the first, in David’s book, Unholy Alliance. In Jamie’s book, which is coming out in the new edition, I believe, United in Hate, delineating the alliance between the left and the forces of Islamic jihad, and explaining that they both hate the West. They both hate the United States. The United States presents as the exponent of representative government the foremost opposition to their idea of government according to what they believe to be the rule of God. Islamic law of Sharia. And so the United States has to be taken out.

And what needs to be put in its place is an internationalist movement transcending nationality, ethnicity, everything else, and uniting people under the rule of Islamic law. Now that, if you think about it, is exactly the same or quite similar to the leftist imperative to destroy the nation state, to create a socialist, internationalist mega state, both of them also want to establish an earthly paradise.

Jews and Christians don’t think, because of the nature of human beings, that you can have a perfect society on earth. Every society is going to have various imperfections. But Islam believes that if you implement Islamic law, that that will create a perfect society on earth. And how is it enforced? By a reign of terror. If you get out of line, you’ll be stoned to death.

You’ll be beheaded, you’ll get your hand cut off, whatever. So people are too terrified to resist, and so they go along out of fear. What does the left do? Every time the left gets into power, they want to create an earthly paradise, the worker’s paradise of pure communism. And in that worker’s paradise, if you get out of line, what happens? You go to the gulag. What do they do when they take power? A reign of terror to terrorize the populace into thinking we can’t get out of line. If we get out of line, we’ll lose our lives. We have to just stay here afraid, and maybe they’ll not bother us. So you see that not only do the left and the forces of Islamic jihad both hate the West and want to destroy it, and they both have the same kind of end goal in mind.

And so they work together very well. And now this is being discussed in the larger society. The fact that Charlie Kirk said this, that Islam is the sword that the left is using to slit the throat of America, indicates that these ideas were moving into the mainstream. Well, if I do say so myself, it was the David Horowitz Freedom Center that pushed them into the mainstream, and it was in particular the David Horowitz Freedom Center project Jihad Watch, which I run, which Christine Douglass-Williams ably contributes to, as well as Hugh Fitzgerald and others.

And we have been there for 22 years, it day in and day out, chronicling not only jihad activity, but showing how it is so closely tied to the imperatives of the left. And so as we go forward now, this is going to become all the more clear with every day’s headlines. But there will be increasingly intense efforts, as Mark alluded to, with the efforts to kill The Path to 9/11 documentary, there’ll be increasingly intense efforts to silence this message and to keep these truths from being known.

And so we will continue to be standing on the front lines and continue to be enunciating these unpopular truths as long as we continue to exist. Thank you very much.

Jamie Glazov

Thank you so much, Robert. Stephen Coughlin, he has a book, Catastrophic Failure. Just nightmarish. Imagine during the Cold War, our government officials were consulting the KGB on what to do next. This is literally the case up until Trump, we’ve got the Muslim Brotherhood advising American officials through their organizations. Robert, I wanted to get back to you just for a second, because this is crucial here.

Many years ago, at one time, am I correct that the FBI or certain government institutions actually had you coming in to give advice and to some teaching? And boy, did they put an end to that quite quickly. And then before you know it, all of a sudden, instead of Robert advising us on what to do against our enemy, it was John Brennan types doing it.

Can you speak on that?

Robert Spencer

Sure. Yeah. It was back in the Bush administration. I was invited by some FBI agents and also some, military personnel to speak and give seminars about Islam and jihad. I gave speeches about the Qur’an and about Muhammad to try to bring the people I was speaking to into the mindset of the terrorists and help them to understand what we’re dealing with.

Obviously, it’s one of the earliest rules of warfare. You can’t defeat an enemy you don’t understand. And so that’s why I was there. I did that for quite a few years, but in 2010, I made a big mistake. I went to a military base in California, and the colonel, who was in charge of the military base, brought me into his office.

And he was very kind and complimentary and said how glad they were that I was there. And don’t tell anybody that I was there. And when you say that to me, I’m just going to do the opposite. So he said, don’t tell anybody. And I said, why not? Because CAIR will make a big fuss about it.

And I thought, so CAIR that is tied to Hamas. The Council on American-Islamic Relations is dictating who can come speak to military personnel and who can’t. And so I was very angry. I went out of the meeting, I saw the two other colonels who had invited me, and I told them about it and they said, Oh, this is terrible.

So we went and got a picture in front of the logo of the base. Yeah, I know, big mistake, because the Council on American-Islamic Relations immediately wrote to John Brennan and said, you’ve got this guy Spencer teaching military. You’ve got to stop that and you’ve got to erase all mention of Islam from counterterror training. And so he said, he wrote back immediately, and he said, yes, of course, we will do that right away.

And so since 2010, it has been the official policy of the US government. The Countering Violent Extremism program makes no mention of Islam whatsoever. And yeah, I know it’s true. They talk about terrorism. And the thing is, who do they have? Who’s the terrorist? They never say. And now we know, oh, it’s us. Because we saw how the Biden administration was using the CVE program and targeting people like pro-life Catholics and angry parents at school board meetings who were angry about the transgender ideology being pushed on their children, and they were opening terrorism cases against them.

And that all started under Obama when he banished Islam from all mention in the counterterror materials. And so that was indirectly my fault. I’m sorry.

Jamie Glazov

In terms of the Tsarnaev brothers, you weren’t even allowed to talk about Sharia if interrogating them. So just imagine the Tsarnaev brothers being brought in for questioning before their terror strike, and you can only ask them if they like chocolate or strawberry ice cream. I’m not kidding.

Christine Williams is the associate editor at Jihad Watch and at Frontpage — and she does a million other things fighting for the truth.

Go ahead, Christine.

Christine Williams

Well thank you. It’s such an honor to be here. And I’d start by saying that we’re actually under the shadow of what happened to Charlie Kirk. But I will say it’s a shadow that was foretold by David Horowitz. Now, I’m going to get to how somebody from Canada ended up working here, and what my pathway was. But I do want to boast about the David Horowitz Freedom Center, because the spirit that David Horowitz carried that we have to battle.

This is a battle tank. Yes, indeed, we do a think tank as well, because we got a lot of thoughtful people here, academics. But at the same time, it is a battle tank. I’ll have to say that it touched me when I heard that many people canceled coming because of what happened as a result of Charlie Kirk.

Nobody’s saying to run in front of a truck. But at the same time, we are in an era where, let’s face it, a globalized intifada has come into this country, and it’s come into Canada, and with it a very violent spirit. So whether people realize it or not, we are being habituated to a spirit of violence that has come upon us. David Horowitz saw that decades ago, and we have to be ready for what is to come.

We see Christian persecution worldwide. We see Muslims killing Muslims worldwide. We see what’s happening in Israel. And at the same time, we are fearful what we just see happening here. And many ask, what are we to do while we’re doing it? And this is the reason why Donald Trump was elected in the first place, because somebody is doing something right.

And I will say, David Horowitz was the beginning of this. And as Robert mentioned, he trained a lot of people, motivated a lot of people to get out there and battle what we did not expect to come into this country. So I’m going to start to talk a little bit how I ended up here. And it started with Jamie Glazov.

I had a talk show in Canada that ran for nine years. It was open line, and so you’re always in the hot seat. And the first time Jamie came on the show, I told my associate producer, I was the producer of the show at the time, “This guy’s got to come back. I don’t know where you found this guy, but he’s got to come back.”

And he was actually caring. Now that I know him, that same spirit of David Horowitz: you have to fight. My show was more daytime. They tried to put me into a kitchen mold, and I refused because I was never the good girl that did what she was told to do. So I kind of started to do my own thing.

Plus, I was the producer, and for me it was worth getting fired for. But I didn’t get fired, and our show won a lot of broadcast awards. That came from the US. I’m talking I’m videographers, Kelly Awards, Crystal Communication Awards, and Omni, and I was proud to have this guy on the show. So, fast forward, I came to a David Horowitz Freedom Center event, and I did a string of interviews with about eleven people.

Robert Spencer was one, and I got to know many people from America by doing that. I’m going to ask for it again: the show, after being very successful, they ended up canceling all the talk shows on that station. It was a small Christian station, but we had a secular show that was a balanced program. So I went on more for writing.

I started off doing the offshoot of the Toronto Star, Metro News, and then I was writing for Nina Rosenwald for the Gatestone Institute at one point, a fine institute, and I was on her board of governors for a while. So I thank her for that. And for Front Page, who remembers here the days of NewsReal blog?

Anybody that goes way back, well, I was writing for that back then, believe it or not. So Jamie brought me in more for Front Page and the rest, as they say, is history. But a few things happened in between. I ended up working for the federal government as an appointee in the Office of Religious Freedoms under Stephen Harper, and also for the Canadian Race Relations Foundation, which was part of the Japanese Redress Agreement signed between Brian Mulroney and the Japanese Association of Canada.

And this was related to the Japanese internment. To make sure that such a human rights abuse never happened again in a country like Canada. So it was an honor to be there, and I was a Privy Council appointee. Well, human rights has always been very important to me. So when I started writing for Jihad Watch and writing about all of the abuses committed in the name of Islam, the Trudeau government came in.

And remember, I was a Harper appointee, and they shut down the Office of Religious Freedoms. That was one of the first things. And then they fired me because of what I was writing about the abuses being committed in the name of Islam. So that was a big hullabaloo in Canada. And as it is now, I basically can’t write in Canada, and I have to be very careful what I say.

I did a video recently for the Canadian Antisemitism Education Foundation, and somebody asked me the question, a simple question: who are the Muslim Brotherhood forces in this country? I couldn’t mention any names, because I could find myself in a lawsuit. So I said to them, which I advise today, look up the unindicted co-conspirators in the largest terrorism funding trial in the history of the United States, the Holy Land Foundation trial.

And look at their offshoots. They’re working inside America. They’re working in Canada, they’re working across Europe, and they are trying to bring us down. They have allied themselves with the left for a violent revolution. And this is what we call the red-green axis. And we’re all in danger more than we realize. But we’re actually doing something right.

Because again, we voted in Donald Trump, and I hope all of you will continue very much to support the Center, because we have a great team here, not only do they take the fight we’re fighting seriously, they’re good people. It’s hard to find an organization that’s tasked with so much, and they’re such good people. Beginning with Mike Finch. We should be up here and everybody else at this table.

And that’s all I have to say for now.

Jamie Glazov

Before we move on, you know, my dad and mom, well, people were saying, if you sign this letter against the Soviet regime, you will go to the gulag. And my dad and mom did it anyway. I don’t know if I could ever live up to their courage, what it takes to be brave. And I live with that in my heart, what my dad and mom were.

Christine Williams was told many times, don’t say this and don’t say that. But you continued to say it and, I won’t mention some of the ways that you’re being persecuted.

Could you just for a minute and a half or two, just talk about why you refuse to stay silent? This is a crucial message from you.

Christine Williams

I’ve always been driven when it came to doing what’s right for human rights for people. And I realized from young for some reason, and doing the show also made me realize what was happening, that this world is not what we perhaps try to make it out to be. And it’s very easy to take the easy road and say, well, I’m not going to get myself in trouble.

But wherever there was trouble when it came to doing what is better for people, I just seem to walk along it with it’s just. And along the way, I have to say, I was sent some very good people that helped me along. I mentioned some of that from Jamie to Robert to the people at the Center, and also Frank Gaffney, because my second book was called Fired by the Government of Canada for Criticizing Islam, and he was the one that asked me to do that book.

And when I was first fired, Nina Rosenwald was the one that asked me to write my story, and I did. So I have to say, yes, I tend to get in trouble for doing this right, but there are always people along the way. When you look at yourself in the mirror one day and say, look, I have to do what my part in this life, there will be people that will come along and help you along the way.

Jamie Glazov

Thank you so much, Christine.

If you don’t want to use ChatGPT and just find out everything, you just call and ask Daniel Greenfield. Just amazing. And what an honor to have him on the front lines with us. Our new CEO, Daniel. Thank you.

Go ahead.

Daniel Greenfield

What is it that makes the David Horowitz Freedom Center different, apart from our name and the fact that we’re doing this event in Vegas? We flew in on September 11th at a time when there are people telling me “I’m just superstitious. I don’t want to fly on September 11th.

And we did it right after probably the most high-profile assassination of a political conservative in America, because we’re not afraid and we get that power – that superpower from David Horowitz. David was never afraid. What is it that makes the David Horowitz Freedom Center different again? We go right back to David, because David called things exactly as they are, and like him, we know what the left is, and we are willing to say it. We know what Islam is. And as you have heard on this panel, we are willing to say it.

The left is a terrorist movement. The murder, the assassination of Charlie Kirk is not an aberration. It’s not something different. It’s part of what the left has been doing for centuries. It is what it’s going to continue doing until we actually go ahead and put a stop to it. Now, if David were alive today, and I very much wish that he were alive, that he would be the CEO and that he would be with us. If he were alive today after Charlie Kirk’s assassination, he would be outraged.

He would be angry. He would not be shocked. And that’s the reality. When you actually understand what the left is, you are not shocked by this violence. You are not shocked by leftist depravity. You are not shocked by leftist evil because you know what the left is.

And not only do we know what the left is, we are going to go out and say it. We are going to keep on saying it. And David knew that very well because David was actually the canary in the coal mine. David was going to campuses, to fight the original version of BLM when he was campaigning against race reparations.

He was going to college campuses after 9/11 to speak out about the jihad. He was doing it. He faced harassment, he faced threats. But the worst thing of it all was the complicity of university administrations, of university officials in that situation, because, you know, we would actually end up having to pay huge amounts of money for security. And that was effectively a barrier.

It was a way of saying that conservative speakers cannot come to campus. Now, there was something that was very revealing that happened the day before Charlie Kirk’s assassination, and FIRE released a survey of about 58,000 college students. And the survey was remarkable, because the surveys show that one out of three college students are okay with using violence to silence speakers on campus that they oppose. 1 in 3. Even if you just take that as revealing of the students who answered the survey, we are still looking at over 20,000 students who are willing to go ahead and say we are okay with using violence to silence campus speakers.

And by the way, don’t think that the other two thirds were innocent, that they’re angels, that they believe in free speech. No, 71% of college students, 71% support blocking other supports shouting down speakers that they oppose. This is something that happened to David Horowitz repeatedly. It’s a rite of passage for conservative speakers on campuses. About 51% or so support blocking students from going to hear speakers that they oppose.

So the majority of college students on campuses oppose free speech. Over half of those 50,000, 50,000 or so willing to go ahead and say that openly, if we generalize it to the 80 million college students that actually exist today. We are talking about millions and millions of people, millions of people who support violence and of those, you know, just like in Islam, there’s a percentage they’re actually willing to act on it.

That is what we saw with the assassination of Charlie Kirk. You know, there’s a small percentage that are willing to do it and a much, much larger percentage that support it. And that is the real problem there. You know, only so many people are actually going to be willing to take action. But a significant percentage, we are now looking at potentially a majority on ivy college campuses support violence.

And we have to understand what that means. The process began really with David, and David was really the first to really show this was the creation of campuses as no go zones for conservatives. And this week began with conservative speakers, supposedly some that were controversial. You know, people said “David is a provocateur. He’s very controversial.” But eventually it spread to these so-called non-controversial conservative speakers.

They themselves were people who were very mild, very moderate people who spoke very politely and were not confrontational, were physically assaulted on college campuses. People, like Charles Murray, for example, were physically assaulted on college campuses. And then it spread not just to the conservatives, because initially it was it’s just a conservative that this is happening to they’re, you know, “They’re all bigots.”

Anyway, it began happening to those liberals who in some way dissented from some agenda item that the left wanted, because they were creating not just a political monoculture. The first step after purging the right is you start purging the people who aren’t sufficiently on the left. And that began happening. And you had liberal faculty that were being forced out and found themselves having to resign because they disagreed with some point of dogma, whether it was, you know, the idea that women are an imaginary species, or that Israel needs to be destroyed. And then, of course, they went after college students, college students who are all conservative could be reported, denounced on the most quite trivial offenses at one point, the college campus went ahead and declared an emergency because a student, an anonymous student, very revealing, where an anonymous student had to post, the copy of the Bill of Rights, specifically the First Amendment. And that was sort of triggering in hate speech. And of course, it went off from there.

We laughed at some of the stuff. A lot of people laugh at some of the stuff that is out there. It’s just so ridiculous. Then, of course, you know, they kept on escalating, because the next step was to build actual terrorists on campus, on college campuses, and start blocking large numbers of college students from even being able to go to campus. And they did this as we saw, and they did this with the support of university officials, with the support of university security.

I was at UCLA, and just watched a so-called campus security go ahead and actually help enforce these measures. And when actual those Jewish students, Jewish community members were, were teargassed, they would pretend not to see anything. And you actually had LAPD people on the scene and they would go, well, go file a police report, go to the precinct, instead of arresting the person who did it.

So there was complicity from the top down at the UCLA campus when you actually had a pro-Hamas encampment set up and was finally broken up, the Los Angeles Board of Supervisors, which controls Los Angeles County, went ahead and almost unanimously, all party line vote by the Democrats voted to provide legal defense, taxpayer funded legal defense for the Hamas supporters.

So don’t get the idea that this is just a campus issue. This was coming from the very top down by Democrats.

Now campuses have successfully been turned into a no-go zone, and now we have the next step, which is actually a campus assassination. Because once you’ve actually turned campuses into terrorist camps, well, you can go ahead now and start killing people. Is it going to get worse for people who know the counterculture, remember the 60s in the 70s?

Know that it is going to get worse. They’ve actually achieved their goal of turning campuses into no-go zones. And the next step is to actually fully radicalize them and begin an actual war. Now, what does Charlie’s death really mean? What it really means is that the cause that he gave his life to the idea that you can go on campuses and debate.

It’s not actually a viable strategy anymore, because you can go on campuses, you can debate, and if you actually win the debate, they will kill you. It’s not enough just to go on campuses and debate something that David began doing long ago. It’s not enough just to say that we are going to go on campus and try to, even if they actually let us in, you know, I was with Michael Finch when we were going to go over to UCLA and hear Robert Spencer speak.

And then it turned out they we’re not going to let Robert Spencer speak. So even assuming that they will let you speak, assuming you can get past the bomb threats and the death threats and then the actual assassin’s bullets, well, you know, you can try to debate on those terms. Those are not terms that we can debate on.

So we have to deal with the reality of what the college campus is, not what we want it to be, not what we imagined it to be. Not to think of it as just a forum where we can win a debate. We should treat college campuses the way which we did the segregated South during the civil rights movement.

We should treat it the way we treated Nazi Germany after the defeat. We need a de-nazification for college campuses. Some people have said, oh, “Look what President Trump is doing to UCLA, to Columbia. It’s too much. He’s demanding millions of dollars.” I would say it’s not nearly enough.

Back in the day, in the 1950s, we had about 2.5 million college students. In the 1970s, we had about 8 million college students. Today, we have 18 million college students. We expect pretty much everybody now to go on campus. And this was Bill Clinton solution to everything, Obama’s solution, everything. You know, you’re going to lose your job as a commander. You’re going to lose your job to, I know, well, it’s okay.

You’re going to go to college, you’re going to get a college degree, and that’s going to solve everything. As America become a better place, now that we have 18 million college students. Was it better in the 1970s when we had 8 million college students instead of 2.5 million in the 50s? Were the 50s or the 70s a better time?

What do you say, 50s or 70s? Which one do you pick? 50s. Thank you. Sending everybody to college has not made America better. John earlier was talking about all the people who are making all these ugly comments about Charlie’s death. I can pretty much guarantee you the whole lot of these people, the vast majority of them, pretty much all of them, are graduates of college, and that their college degrees are absolutely useless.

Very few of these people have a college degree in anything worthwhile. They have Jill Biden college degrees. They have degrees that are there for the sake of having a role in some sort of woke enterprise. And the fundamental thing that we need to do is to actually start rethinking college itself. We need to start rethinking the value of college, a multi-trillion dollar industry that is being subsidized by American taxpayers.

We need to rethink the idea that college makes you a better person, and that we are better off as a country if we have more college graduates, where absolutely not. Are colleges preparing us for the future, they have a kind of sense for the future? They’re preparing them for massive amounts of student loan debt and degrees in absolutely nothing worthwhile.

We’re still getting our tech talent from India and China. Even the students that are in American schools that are getting their STEM degrees are coming from China and India. What does that really say? College has absolutely failed. The entire higher education system has absolutely failed. It’s failed at its purpose as a stated purpose, which is to give us a well-educated and trained task force.

It has succeeded at its actual intended purpose of creating a massive nationwide terrorist movement. The murder of Charlie Kirk ought to be yet another wake-up call in that regard, if we needed any more wake-up calls. But what we need to do is not to simply reform higher education. David was fighting for that, and politicians were doing it with him.

If colleges at that time, including some of the same deans and professors who rejected him at the time and then themselves were forced out, wasn’t it the time at that time when we could have reformed college? Maybe at the moment we can now reform college. What we need to do is to drastically shrink higher education, and there are ways that we can actually do that.

We do not actually need to have Ivy League institutions be the center which around which our lives revolve.

We need to actually deal with the reality of what college campuses are. And we need to do that because just as we deal with the reality of what the left is, and this is something to which the David Horowitz Freedom Center has always been dedicated, we are not going to end our campus efforts. We are engaging in very important reporting on college campuses.

There are people with us who continue to speak on college campuses. We are not giving up the fight on college campuses, but we need to be clear about what the modern college campus is, and we need to actually be ready to start treating them like terrorist training camps before we actually have to start droning Harvard and the rest of the Ivy League.

Thank you so much.