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“Everyone who wanted to fight is already fighting”: Top Ukrainian UAV commander prepares for war with drones, not men

Robert Brovdi says the war will last beyond 2025.
The image shows Robert Brovdi, the commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine’s Unmanned Systems Forces and the founder of the “Birds of the Madiar” drone unit. Credit: 414th Strike UAV Brigade
“Everyone who wanted to fight is already fighting”: Top Ukrainian UAV commander prepares for war with drones, not men

The full-scale war in Ukraine will continue beyond 2025, said Robert Brovdi, also known as Madiar, the commander of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ Unmanned Systems, during the LANDEURO conference in Germany’s Wiesbaden, UNIAN reports.

Russia shows no sign of willingness to stop the war against Ukraine. On the contrary, it has begun launching 700 drones per night on civilians and killing more people than during the last three years of fighting. Russian ruler Vladimir Putin has recently said that Ukraine and Russia are one people, while his aides directly claim the war will continue until Kyiv’s capitulation.

“We don’t see the end of the war coming tomorrow — or likely even this year. Putin is sending more infantry than we can destroy,” Madiar stated.

According to him, the main threats include massive Shahed drone attacks, Ukraine’s shortage of mobilization resources, and the enemy’s numerical advantage.

“Everyone who wanted to fight is already fighting,” he noted.

However, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are already working on solutions: plans include replacing infantry with ground-based drones and building a multi-level “drone wall” to intercept everything coming from Russia.

“This wall, taller than the Great Wall of China, is already being built,” the commander concluded.

Brovdi became the commander of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ Unmanned Systems in June. After taking the position, he announced he would work on the new Drone Line project, a 10-15 kilometer “kill zone” where enemy forces cannot advance without suffering significant losses.

His program also includes:

  • Increasing domestic production of munitions and creating a unified supply depot for critical components such as Starlink, batteries, electronic warfare systems, and FPV parts;
  • Deploying ground robotic platforms for the logistics of munitions, drones, and peripheral equipment;
  • Launching a unified recruitment campaign and establishing a dedicated training network for drone pilots and operators of various systems.