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NextImg:Therapy Class Claims Trump Is a Cult Leader. Does That Make His Voters ‘Followers’?

When Pamela Garfield-Jaeger learned that a therapist was offering a class characterizing supporters of President Donald Trump as members of a cult, she was compelled to learn more.

Using a fake name, Garfield-Jaeger registered for the online course, and in August spent three hours “learning” how therapists can deal with their Trump-supporting clients. 

The course, “The Impact of Donald Trump on America: A Cultic Studies Perspective,” was led by clinical trauma specialist Jamie Marich. Janja Lalich, a sociologist and cult expert, also participated in the instruction.

They painted Trump as a cult leader.  

The course “instructed therapists to hate their Trump-supporting patients,” Garfield-Jaeger wrote in a post on social media after attending the class.  

“I was ‘taught’ that if you voted for Trump, you are a part of a ‘cult on a national scale’ that ‘presents an image of bringing the country back to a white majority and white power,’” added Garfield-Jaeger, who first reported her experience for Post Millennial.  

Garfield-Jaeger, a social worker and author of a number of books, including “A Practical Response to Gender Distress: Tips and Tools for Families,” joins “Problematic Women” to discuss the ways the field of psychology has been influenced by a political agenda in recent years.  

Also on today’s show, Garfield-Jaeger offers her insights into the deadly shooting at a Catholic school in Minneapolis, in which the shooter was discovered to identify as transgender.  

Plus, the leftist media promoted a rumor that Trump was dead after the president did not make a public appearance for several days. Where were they during President Joe Biden’s entire administration?  

And we also take a little time on this week’s show to celebrate the recent wedding of Morgonn McMichael, a Gen Z cultural and Christian commentator, and the anniversary of co-host Elise McCue being cancer-free!  

Enjoy the show!  

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