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Aubrey Gulick


NextImg:The Spectator P.M. Podcast Ep. 13: Here Comes the Iowa Caucus

Everything is going exactly as predicted in the Republican primary race — Trump is still leading, and Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis are duking it out over who gets to be in second place.

In this episode of The Spectator P.M. Podcast, hosts Ellie Gardey and Aubrey Gulick offer their analysis on DeSantis and Haley’s latest round of sibling-like bantering at CNN’s Republican primary debate last Wednesday night. (READ MORE on the Republican Primary Debate: The Premature Postmortem of the 2024 Campaign for the GOP Nomination)

Ellie and Aubrey then turn their attention to the shifting polls and the freezing weather that could impact Monday’s voting.

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Read Aubrey and Ellie’s writing here and here.

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