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Ellie Gardey Holmes


NextImg:The Spectator P.M. Ep. 115: Presbyterian Church Holds A Black Worshippers Only Event

In lieu of Black History Month, Resurrection Oakland Church in California hosted two events exclusively for their “black worshippers.” The black-only event culminated with speaker Rev. Dr. Irwin Ince, a Presbyterian church leader who has been vocal about black people having “minority fatigue” from being around white people.

On this episode of The Spectator P.M. Podcast, hosts Ellie Gardey Holmes and Lyrah Margo critique the event and discuss the negative implications of dividing congregations by race. Ellie and Lyrah also talk about Ince’s racially focused message that does not fit with the church’s overall mission.

Tune in to hear their discussion!

Read Ellie and Lyrah’s writing here and here.

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