Actress Lily Collins welcomed her child via surrogate this past weekend, which brought up many concerns about the hidden dangers of surrogacy.

On this episode of The Spectator P.M. Podcast, hosts Ellie Gardey Holmes and Lyrah Margo discuss how celebrities — such as Collins and, more notably, Kim Kardashian — have played a role in normalizing surrogacy as a “better” alternative to giving birth to your own child. Ellie and Lyrah analyze surrogacy’s negative implications on the surrogate mother, the mother, and more importantly — the baby in the womb.

Tune in to hear their discussion!

Read Ellie and Lyrah’s writing here and here.

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